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PearlJam said:
I'm not exactly a Wii fan, but I can easily admit that they already won this gen. They haven't even had a price cut yet, and it's selling about as much as the other 2 systems combined. People can't say that price is the only factor here either, GameCube was cheaper than either PS2 and Xbox and that didn't put them on top.

I don't really see PS3 overtaking 360 either, but it can close the gap if they do the right things. If Sony cuts the price, Microsoft will do the same. Microsoft is overall more financially secure than either Nintendo or Sony, so they can afford to do what needs to be done.

Most of the system sellers have already come out, on all their respective systems. A lot of the games that helped Sony secure other generations are now Multi-plats or on other systems entirely. Sony never had the strongest 1st party studios, they were always carried by 3rd parties. Without all the 3rd parties in their back pocket, this was bound to happen. Nintendo has always relied mostly on 1st party, and since those are the games that people are buying they are in a strong position.

The PlayStation brand isn't as strong as some people think, and even if it was that doesn't matter. In the 80's Nintendo was the only company that mattered, that didn't stop Sega from taking nearly half of their market share only a generation later.

Well, that pretty much sums it up.

OT: Whatever turnarounds we've seen this gen are the only ones we'll get. Only minor changes will occurr from here on out.



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leo-j said:

I still think it can happen, microsoft can change the playing field if they decide to cut to $99, and im sure they can


If they cut the price to $1 it'll win for sure! If it didn't uh who wouldn't pass up that offer?



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Pearljam - Sega never took half of Nintendos market share.



JEDE3 said:
Pearljam - Sega never took half of Nintendos market share.

Aaannd the nitpicking begins...



JEDE3 said:
Pearljam - Sega never took half of Nintendos market share.

Look, I'm not trying to get into stupid arguments. I said that Sega took NEARLY half of Nintendo's market, which they did. At several points Sega was ahead, and for a long time no system was the clear winner. Nintendo only came out on top at the very end thanks to Donkey Kong Country, Mortal Kombat II and many other games that really showed what the SNES could do. At that point Sega was getting ready for Saturn, had already released the 32-X and had basically abandoned the Genesis. You can't just look at the outcome and say Nintendo easily won, for a while there it really looked like Sega was going to become the dominant player.

My point is, no Sony system ever dominated like the NES. And Nintendo did worse with every generation after that until the Wii came out. That doesn't mean the same thing will happen to Sony, it just means that brand name isn't enough to win.



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While I would agree with alot of what Pearljam is saying, I think its kinda silly to compare today's market with that of 20 years ago. Brand recognition of today is even more different.



I would say that brand recognition means even less today.



badgenome said:
I still really believe a $250 PS3 can turn this generation around.

Same



 

Whoever believes that should wake up.



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if mircosoft does jump to the next gen within the next 3 years the ps3 will pass it