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So what Im basically saying is that the claims are so obviously made on such loose facts and insecure data, and the models depend on so many factors, that it's quite easy to conclude, after u've followed the 'global warming'/climate change topic for a while, that this claim:

'human made global warming is a fact'

is ridiculous.



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I think this is going to have to be a case of we agree to disagree on this one slimebeast.

Obviously we have different views on who we could trust for information and that's something that never changes.

Also, just as a friendly note, for the record I'm a bit of a bench sitter on Climate change. I acknowledge that the evidence shows that mankind releases pollutants that effect the atmosphere and climate. But I don't think man made pollution accounts for 100% of climate change, not even near. I think it's more along the lines of like 10-20%, as I say the media overblows it and I know this because I know three or four climatologists who have told me what the media has done lol.



^if man made pollution would only account for 10-20% of the climate change we're experiencing in the last decade or two, then it's such a low proportion that it's inmeasurable and negilible at this point.



Slimebeast said:
highwaystar101 said:

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_ The public and scientists did not always see eye-to-eye. For example 87 percent of scientists believed that humans and other living things evolved naturally, compared with 32 percent of the general public (WTF at the disparity on that one!). And while 84 percent of scientists say the Earth is getting warmer because of human activities, just 49 percent of the public agreed.

Shows that sometimes scientists are actually less knowledgable about the reality than the public is.


So now a random guy in a videogame forum and 49% of general public, which could easily be stupid people, know more than 84% of the scientific comunity. It could be possible but it isnt likely.



pastro243 said:
Slimebeast said:
highwaystar101 said:

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_ The public and scientists did not always see eye-to-eye. For example 87 percent of scientists believed that humans and other living things evolved naturally, compared with 32 percent of the general public (WTF at the disparity on that one!). And while 84 percent of scientists say the Earth is getting warmer because of human activities, just 49 percent of the public agreed.

Shows that sometimes scientists are actually less knowledgable about the reality than the public is.


So now a random guy in a videogame forum and 49% of general public, which could easily be stupid people, know more than 84% of the scientific comunity. It could be possible but it isnt likely.


You kinda missed the point.



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Slimebeast said:
^if man made pollution would only account for 10-20% of the climate change we're experiencing in the last decade or two, then it's such a low proportion that it's inmeasurable and negilible at this point.

 

Not really, if we sped up the current ice age by 20% wouldn't you notice?



fewer than half — 46 percent — knew that electrons are smaller than atoms

This is really disturbing, that was before high school for me, and it kept emerging over and over again in chemistry and physics classes. Are people getting that much dumber?



alekth said:

fewer than half — 46 percent — knew that electrons are smaller than atoms

This is really disturbing, that was before high school for me, and it kept emerging over and over again in chemistry and physics classes. Are people getting that much dumber?

tbh, much of that report is disturbing, such as this

"87 percent of scientists believed that humans and other living things evolved naturally, compared with 32 percent of the general public"

sounds to me like your nation needs to improve science lessons significantly.



alekth said:

fewer than half — 46 percent — knew that electrons are smaller than atoms

This is really disturbing, that was before high school for me, and it kept emerging over and over again in chemistry and physics classes. Are people getting that much dumber?

I know right, electrons are part of an atom so how people thought atoms were smaller is beyond me lol.



SciFiBoy said:
alekth said:

fewer than half — 46 percent — knew that electrons are smaller than atoms

This is really disturbing, that was before high school for me, and it kept emerging over and over again in chemistry and physics classes. Are people getting that much dumber?

tbh, much of that report is disturbing, such as this

"87 percent of scientists believed that humans and other living things evolved naturally, compared with 32 percent of the general public"

sounds to me like your nation needs to improve science lessons significantly.


I think religion has to do with it, the bible is more important than any scientific studies to them. I know this because some guy at a FB forum called me idiot because I thought that adam and eve wasnt more than a story(which is) and he started saying that we coming from monkeys was very stupid and laughed like an idiot, another girl said there where the ones who are sons of god and the others are inferior and come from the monkeys, also, they said the big bang was so stupid because only god can organize something as perfect as the universe, many other things they said.

I think someone needs to do something.