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Has anyone ever thought about the whole concept of the four lights? Did Microsoft know originally that there would be so many problems with the 360 that they equipped it with a coding system to help Microsoft technicians remedy all the foreseen problems on a case by case basis? What other purpose or signals do these lights provide?



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super_etecoon said:
Has anyone ever thought about the whole concept of the four lights? Did Microsoft know originally that there would be so many problems with the 360 that they equipped it with a coding system to help Microsoft technicians remedy all the foreseen problems on a case by case basis? What other purpose or signals do these lights provide?

That sort of troubleshooting light system is actually quite common on consumer electronics and computer devices.

 




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Liars....here we go again with these RRoD issues.



rocketpig said:
akuma587 said:
I love how 360 users are able to instantly classify the multiple types of system failures the 360 has.

I love how PS3 owners spend all day on forums like VGChartz because they have nothing worth playing for their system.

See, I can flame too! Wheeee!!!


*comes back in after playing a session of Warhawk*

lol

 

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Anyway, I'm doubting that 65nm cpu chips would totally fix the problem unless it helps the airflow and temperature inside the case. I say that because my room mates and I are using a 360 Premium (purchased last month or the end of August) as a camera for a Halo 2 machinima and when we were finished recording last week and were moving all the consoles, wires, and VCR back to their origonal spots, I noticed that the 360 was EXTREMLY hot on the bottom and very hot on the top, yet perfectly cool on the right side where it also has air holes. The heat on the bottom of the 360 was similar (don't know the exact temps) to the temperature of the air venting out the side of my PS3 which is pretty darn hot.

Not to mention the power brick was just as hot. The 360 or my PS3 combined with my PC make my room so hot. . . Who needs to pay for gas in the winter, lol.



@lllegalPaladin

Yeah, Thats one advantage I have for the 360. It will keep my room warm this winter.



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I was under the impression its not all the of LE 360s that have the falcon. I remember reading on a site that had a serial number range and lot number(or something to that effect), so people who read the site could see if they in fact have one of the new 360s with the falcon chip.



lol @W29
I live in florida, and I can hardly play my PS3 in the summer, it's like a freaking space heater, it overpowers my air conditioner. So I can only play for like 45 minutes at a time before my game room is 95 degrees.



                                   

It was my understanding from threads here and on other sites, that it was only those units manufactured after 8/20 or 8/24 (those are the dates that I've seen referenced) that are confirmed to have the 65nm CPU (and possibly the GPU).

The picture in your link shows a manufacture date of 8/16. It's entirely possible that this unit is still a 90nm Zephyr unit.



Crap. Guess I still need to wait longer. I want a 360 Microsoft. I really really do. There are so many games I want. Please just make it reliable, and I'll buy it.



naznatips said:
Crap. Guess I still need to wait longer. I want a 360 Microsoft. I really really do. There are so many games I want. Please just make it reliable, and I'll buy it.

You are never going to get a 360 if this is your standard.

1) Some percentage of brand new 360s will always RRoD. When they do, photos will be posted online, you'll see them, and not buy a 360. Even if new 360s are 1,000 times more reliable, all it apparently takes for you to not buy one is for a few photos of a few consoles with RRoD to show up on the internet (based on this "First case of..." story).

2) New 360s could become 1,000 times more reliable ("could," I'm not saying they are), but anyone who really wants to could still MAKE a new 360 RRoD if they try hard enough. And plenty of people out there may want to do so for various reasons, and they will post photos online. Give me any high-tech electronic device and I'll get it to malfunction within one hour.

There will be plentiful cases of RRoD throughout the lifespan of the 360, no matter what Microsoft does.

 



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