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S.T.A.G.E. said:
nen-suer said:
@S.T.A.G.E.

Dude, am only saying give SEGA some credit (they deserve it) XD

You dont need to prove that to me (lol). I fucking love Sega. It was the only brand that gave first party in almost every genre and they ended up being quality. Sega did things not even Nintendo could do. What Nintendo did better than Sega was creating interesting characters, while Segas were generic.

Yeah SEGA is awesome

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2) at least it's much better than nothing like on 360. Or is it 'cool' somehow to have no browser ? Is internet useless now ?

3) there are millions of users who use Home, but yeah it's just starting. Once again, all the 360 ahs to compete are childish Mii ripoffs (avatars)

4) 'most FPS are better with 16 players' ah ah nice one. Or even better with 2 like Gears ? Or even 1 ? Oflline I mean. Seriously... Huge scale battles and objectives are only possible in huge scale games, see planetside on PC, Resistance 2 or MAg on PS3. Once again less is better on Live? Okay

6) Yes they are from the 01/01/09. Sony made them mandatory. Please tell me which 2009 games don't have trophies or was it a lie ?

7) yeah but you have more downtime, more lag, no blueray, no huge scale battles (64+ players), no web browser, no Home, no Vidzone, plenty of ads everywhere and you pay for that.

All in all, I'll keep the PSN I guess. So will the majority of us (gamers I mean) apparently since there are apparently more PSN accounts than Live Gold accounts.




rodrz34 a few fair points there but remember it has cross game chat.

like you mentioned with (4. Its good to have an option of picking up a game with large scale battles, some people like the alternative.



Sardauk said:
XxXProphecyXxX said:
Sardauk said:
Dgc1808 said:
PSN works fine for me. Once I have Cross game chat there's no real plus in XBL to me.

Most people say that because they don't use XBL .

Do you ?

 

There are also ppl who claims XBL is better just cause thats the only thing they have tried so far....your point?

Well, my point is that, for me, I feel a bit isolated when I start my PS3... don't feel like there is something living in there...

When I start my 360, it feels like the whole system "breath online", with animated content that are direclty feed to the NXE... avatars gathered in party mode playing some game, I can contact multiple person and jump from multiple discussions canals immedialty...I can pinpoint old players, recontact them and the system proposes me different actions to interact with them... etc..

On the PS3, the system basically tries to copycat the features but in a very tedious way... very tedious...and Home is not helping.

Of course, people who don't play online might not be very intersted in that anyway...

My point is, the only problem of XBL is that you have to pay for it... otherwise, nobody would find PSN a potentialy more attractive "service"...

 

I play online. I login to Killzone 2 and engage in furious firefights with other gamers for hours and hours.

I don't need any funny looking bot-avatar nodding his head and some stupid caricature (that is supposed to be me) winking against a garish background to feel 'connected'

I also don't think of online gaming as 'socializing' with people I have got the PC for that, thank you.

I guess people have a different idea of what 'playing online' means.

Hey, I can actually play online for free, I'll take that.



 

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Tony_Parker said:
Yeah, I wonder what makes cross gaming voice chat so difficult on PS3. I wouldn't use it myself, but it doesn't sound that difficult, running something like Skype in background...

Probably because of all the law suites. You know, thats why PS3 controllers didnt come with DualShock. Because some other company

was claiming the rights for it and Sony faught them in court, and Sony lost. We now have DualShcok controllers though.



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@zaMy: yeah, probably legal issues.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
nen-suer said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
nen-suer said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
nen-suer said:
True, PSN is different than XBL each has there own style. I like the PSN and am happy to hear

there bringing more PS1 classics. And PSP GO is day one buy for me

Sony says this...but with common sense everyone knows that without the Xbox live blue print there would've never been the PSN that you see today.

Sega with the DC was the first company to start the whole process, also if it wasnt for Sony big success with the Playstaion there wouldnt be even an Xbox, not to mention if it wasnt for Nintendo there wouldnt be a PS....and.....what was ur point again

SegaNet was a failed attempt by Sega, during the Saturn Era. The Dreamcast would've never had a proper online OS without Microsoft. When the Dreamcast failed (which was still revolutionary) they turned to Earthlink. What was your point again?

So u agree that they where the first ones, coze thats my point right there

That wasn't even their first failed effort for online buddy. Keep trying. They were trying for online since the Genesis.

The Sega Channel FTW!!!!



rodrz34 said:
2) at least it's much better than nothing like on 360. Or is it 'cool' somehow to have no browser ? Is internet useless now ? No, just a browser on a console is pretty useless.

3) there are millions of users who use Home, but yeah it's just starting. Once again, all the 360 ahs to compete are childish Mii ripoffs (avatars)

I don't see how this refutes my claim that the majority of PSN users ignore Home and don't want/need it.

4) 'most FPS are better with 16 players' ah ah nice one. Or even better with 2 like Gears ? Or even 1 ? Oflline I mean. Seriously... Huge scale battles and objectives are only possible in huge scale games, see planetside on PC, Resistance 2 or MAg on PS3. Once again less is better on Live? Okay

Once again, the number of players is not limited by XBL or PSN.  It is a game decision.  And the whole FPS is best with 16 players or less is a majority oppinion.  All you have to do is look at the number of games with lower player numbers and higher sales than the games with higher player numbers.

6) Yes they are from the 01/01/09. Sony made them mandatory. Please tell me which 2009 games don't have trophies or was it a lie ?

Ok so as of this year they are finally mandatory.  Good.  But when trophies first launched until this year many games still did not and do not have trophy support.

7) yeah but you have more downtime, more lag, no blueray, no huge scale battles (64+ players), no web browser, no Home, no Vidzone, plenty of ads everywhere and you pay for that.

I do not have more downtime, nor do I have more lag.  In fact I had more downtime and lag on PSN games when I still had my PS3.  Huge scale battles are not a trait of the network service, don't need a browser on a console with a controller, Home is rather pointless, and really there are no "ads" on the service.  The only ads I see are for XBL games and Xbox 360 games and partnerships for contests and stuff.  All beneficial to me.  And at the same time you don't have HD streaming, don't have unlimited free radio stations, party chat/video, a good matchmaking system, or as large of an on demand library as I do.  Not to mention I will have access to the entire Zune marketplace for video, music, and more

All in all, I'll keep the PSN I guess. So will the majority of us (gamers I mean) apparently since there are apparently more PSN accounts than Live Gold accounts.

There are not more PSN accounts.  The majority of HD gamers choose XBL as well as the Xbox 360.  Sony uses "accounts created" for their figures, which only ads up to being about equal to their PS3 install base when it in fact spans their forums, the PSP, and the PS3.  Not to mention many many people make multiple accounts to take advantage of games like Call of Duty since they are free, or to download regional items on PSN.  XBL has nearly 20 million active accounts on just the Xbox 360 and Windows Live Games.  Active as in used in the last 30 days.  I imagine if Microsoft released the total Xbox Live accounts created it would be nearly 30 million or more and make the number for PSN accounts pale in comparison.

 



PSN is bigger then XBL now. No matter how many alt accounts you count. Because each of those accounts can do online gaming. Meanwhile let's pretend there are no alt accounts for XBL even though people make alt accounts for a free month of Gold all the time. You think people are making alt PSN accounts so they can get free PSN?



rodrz34 said:
2) at least it's much better than nothing like on 360. Or is it 'cool' somehow to have no browser ? Is internet useless now ?

3) there are millions of users who use Home, but yeah it's just starting. Once again, all the 360 ahs to compete are childish Mii ripoffs (avatars)

4) 'most FPS are better with 16 players' ah ah nice one. Or even better with 2 like Gears ? Or even 1 ? Oflline I mean. Seriously... Huge scale battles and objectives are only possible in huge scale games, see planetside on PC, Resistance 2 or MAg on PS3. Once again less is better on Live? Okay

6) Yes they are from the 01/01/09. Sony made them mandatory. Please tell me which 2009 games don't have trophies or was it a lie ?

7) yeah but you have more downtime, more lag, no blueray, no huge scale battles (64+ players), no web browser, no Home, no Vidzone, plenty of ads everywhere and you pay for that.

All in all, I'll keep the PSN I guess. So will the majority of us (gamers I mean) apparently since there are apparently more PSN accounts than Live Gold accounts.



The 360 isn't an internet browser. You question too soon as Microsoft made Internet Explorer. It's quite obvious that Microsoft wants to focus on the Xbox Live experience, instead of doing everything but like Sony. This is why Sony screws up these things. They don't understand how to appeal on that greater level of closeness online. When you are with your party of friends on live, you literally are. It is the greatest substitute for them not being in the same room, whether it be playing videogames or watching movies together or just voice chatting (without a need for a phone I might add).