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The said:
^why don't you show the first half (2008) of that chart? The 360 is selling at mass-market price this year, mass-market SALES should be expected, am I right?

Beating a PS3 priced a lot more all over the world by around 400K this year is what you call a big achievement and mass-market sales? Why isn't the 360 selling closer to the Wii? say 50K less per week than the Wii or something?

Your chart only shows the 360 was failing and the price-cut saved it from complete disaster. Thanks for the illustration, it helps my point quite a lot.

No it didn't, that chart actually completely disproved your point. Read your OP again, and then look at the chart. Not that the chart is the only thing that disproves you, but I'm responding to this post, not your OP.

Were I responding to your OP, I would inform you that most analyists think the price-cut changed momentum back in favor of MS, and is exclusively to blame for MS's chances at 2nd place this gen....truth.



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I could do it better? Im tempted to redo your thread.



Tease.

kowenicki said:
Skeeuk said:
xbox 360 is half the price of ps3 as an entry system.

yet it only scrapes 15-20k more a week.

by now it should have been 15 million ahead as predicted by vg users.

early last year a higher priced ps3 sold more per week many times 70k+ than a lower priced 360.

im hoping for a $100 price cut to go with a cheaper produced ps3, i need a 2nd ps3. i think it will do very very well, if it doesnt beat 360 this fall it should at least match sales of 360. but overall i think WW ps3 should sell more, but possibly mabey equal.

and the extra sales for 360 after price cuts hasnt brung any more games, for a console thats cheaper than wii into its 4rth year should be pumping out good exclusive games every few months.

im tired im logging off. bye

like who?


deffo last one before i go.

ye i recall loads of people predicting 360 will continue selling over twice per month and that it will never dip below 250k a week etc.

but in all honesty it should have rocketed ahead, as greenberg claimed, we have finally reached the mass market price and history tells us that 70% of a consoles sales are in once it gets to a $199 sweet spot.



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@zen No shit. But it (the price-cut) has underachieved nonetheless.



Skeeuk said:
xbox 360 is half the price of ps3 as an entry system.

yet it only scrapes 15-20k more a week.

by now it should have been 15 million ahead as predicted by vg users.

early last year a higher priced ps3 sold more per week many times 70k+ than a lower priced 360.

im hoping for a $100 price cut to go with a cheaper produced ps3, i need a 2nd ps3. i think it will do very very well, if it doesnt beat 360 this fall it should at least match sales of 360. but overall i think WW ps3 should sell more, but possibly mabey equal.

and the extra sales for 360 after price cuts hasnt brung any more games, for a console thats cheaper than wii into its 4rth year should be pumping out good exclusive games every few months.

im tired im logging off. bye

You mean games like FFXIII and Tekken 6 right? Those were great exclusives once.

As for relative library quality:

www.metacritic.com



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Mr Khan said:

Are Gold Memberships really profitable for MS? I was under the impression that LIVE was one of the bigger money sinks for the Xbox division.

 

Oh yeah.. for shizzle...

The $50/year that the 10 million+ gold members pay every year is wasted on booze and women...

Then, the money from DLC's sold on Xbox Live are given to charity...



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The said:

@zen No shit. But it (the price-cut) has underachieved nonetheless.

How did it underachieve? It boosted sales greatly in the long term, and put major pressure on the PS3 for a price cut. It has been nothing but a success. Did it not have enough win for you?



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

Skeeuk said:
kowenicki said:
Skeeuk said:
xbox 360 is half the price of ps3 as an entry system.

yet it only scrapes 15-20k more a week.

by now it should have been 15 million ahead as predicted by vg users.

early last year a higher priced ps3 sold more per week many times 70k+ than a lower priced 360.

im hoping for a $100 price cut to go with a cheaper produced ps3, i need a 2nd ps3. i think it will do very very well, if it doesnt beat 360 this fall it should at least match sales of 360. but overall i think WW ps3 should sell more, but possibly mabey equal.

and the extra sales for 360 after price cuts hasnt brung any more games, for a console thats cheaper than wii into its 4rth year should be pumping out good exclusive games every few months.

im tired im logging off. bye

like who?


deffo last one before i go.

ye i recall loads of people predicting 360 will continue selling over twice per month and that it will never dip below 250k a week etc.

but in all honesty it should have rocketed ahead, as greenberg claimed, we have finally reached the mass market price and history tells us that 70% of a consoles sales are in once it gets to a $199 sweet spot.

Turns out the new "sweet spot" is $150 bundled with Natal or something, or so it seems from what I read from people here. $200 is so elite, $150 is the new mass market price...while people (many of them non-gamers) are glad to pay for the Wii more than the list price.



Actually, most people on this forum said the 360 price cut was a non entity and that the PS3 would continue to steam roll it. Look how that turned out. There was an entire thread of predictions of when the PS3 would pass the 360 in sales, and 99% of the people are pretty much already wrong. You can say, "well they did not know about the price cut", but I think it was pretty obvious the 360 was going to be getting a cut at some point in the future.



ZenfoldorVGI said:
The said:

@zen No shit. But it (the price-cut) has underachieved nonetheless.

How did it underachieve? It boosted sales greatly in the long term, and put major pressure on the PS3 for a price cut. It has been nothing but a success. Did it not have enough win for you?


Zen, my boy. What if I were to compare the early 2007 PS3 sales to the early-mid 2008 PS3 sales? Would that be so surprising? Of course it shows the PS3 starting doing a lot better, as it would've died an horrible early death if Sony hadn't found a way to reduce costs and impale themselves while cutting the price so early in the circle. But look at that difference between the dying PS3 of early 2007 and what it was selling when it got the cut. It was "less expensive" alright, but still expensive, not mass-friendly priced, and still considerably pricier than the competition! We're talking about mass market price here, $200. If you look at the 360 price cut as a LIFE-SAVING measure, then yeah, it was THE ONLY WAY OUT, and it paid off. I've never denied that. That was THE move. Still, and I'm sorry for my stubborness, I think I expect a lot more from a mass-market priced product. I would expect it should be selling around 180K every week, not its current level which is just above a product which is by no means mass-market or enjoys so strong market penetration. Take Xbox Live Gold for example, if Gold is indeed growing every month you would think more new people would prefer to buy a 360 so they'd be able to play with their friends and relatives. Just an example, I think the value of a $200 or $300 X360 should be percieved a lot higher than it is!