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mesoteto on 02 October 2007
Picko said:
People should not simply have to accept mediocrity, nor should they ever be asked to do so.

To some extent, you are looking at this the wrong way. Instead of asking whether there's a problem with the people who hate the Wii, why not ask whether there's a problem with the Wii itself? Criticism is not necessarily bad, and not necessarily incorrect, and I do not understand why so many feel that Nintendo should be beyond criticism.

If a system has crap games then it should be criticised, and there are a lot of mediocre games on the Wii. In fact there is an unusual amount of mediocre games on the Wii as a percentage of total games. Check game rankings, metacritic or even the likes of IGN, they'll all reinforce the notion that there's a reason that some owners of the Wii complain about the system. The average game on IGN for example is rated only a 6.5 (approx) about a point lower than the average PS3 game (A system which is considered to have a very weak lineup). The line-up thus far is weak, significantly weaker than one might expect at this point in its life. There are a handful of excellent games (MP3, Zelda, RE4, PM) but the quality falls away remarkably quick.

Now I agree, that non-owners complaining is annoying. Afterall ignorance is not a virtue. However, if owners want to complain they should, simply because they should never be asked to accept mediocrity simply because others find it annoying.

notice that those are teh Nin games----right now you are gettingalot of shovel ware from third parties that want all the money they can get from the wii---peopel should falme them for makin gcrap not nin for making a good system



 

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gawalls on 02 October 2007

these third party days who release shovelware are numbered, over this quarter the standards for every genre are going to be raised - be it by Nintnedo or third party and I think Capcom may just get a million seller out of every Wii title they release this year. That aside there is wayh too much complaining about the Wii and as many have already said in this post, it's the Wii's first year but maybe thats the problem - maybe a lot of people who dont normally buy a console in so early / at launch have bought the wii very early due to it's price tag and hype yet they dont know what to expect.

Kind of buying a dog for the first time wen it's six weeks old and complaining cos it sh1ts a lot



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Gamerace on 02 October 2007

@John Lucas - I forget the exact quote but it goes along these lines

Every great revelation goes through 3 stages
First it's ridiculed
Second it's violently opposed
Third it's accepted as obvious truth

The Wii is revolutionizing the industry, to the betterment of all. But there will always be that hardcore group, used to having it all to themselves, use to games developers, publishers and system makers catering (ever increasing over the last two generations) to them. Now that's slipping away, away from the hardcore to the more general public. In the end that will bring prosperity to the entire industry and better games for all. Including the hardcore. In time, they'll accept that as obvious truth too.



 

stof on 02 October 2007

hehe, gotta love ya John.

I will definately agree with the attituteds towards the 360. For almost the first full year nobody seemed very excited about its game line up. The console was a joke on forums. Things turned around about the time that Dead Rising came out. Of course, then came Gears.

And that's pretty common. Most people buy their consoles later on in it's life, when it has amassed a larger library of hit titles. I think the problem with the Wii was that it Launched with Twilight Princess, so a lot of people that normally would have waited a while to buy a Wii went out and got it right away. And once they were done that game, they were suddenly faced with a just launched console and the consequent just launched library.

That kind of attitude towards the Wii's library should subside considerably by Christmas.



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friedtofu on 02 October 2007
johnlucas said:

From non-owners it's one thing and it is to be expected. But from owners isn't this routing getting a little old?


 Isnt it the actual owners who have the right to make complaints though? Maybe the complaints are legit? People who dont own 'xyz' product, but complain and criticize about it have alot less cred than people who actually own it, wether its a car, a tv, or a game console.
 

 



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dgm6780 on 02 October 2007

wii = fad. dont get mad and call people whinners or whatever when they point this out. its for kids, grandma's, and people rehabing a shoulder injury. if you want some serious gameplay with some depth - you dont by a wii. There might be a couple Wii games out there with depth and complexity but for the most - ITS A MARIO PARTY MACHINE!!! YAY



Neos on 02 October 2007
dgm6780 said:
wii = fad. dont get mad and call people whinners or whatever when they point this out. its for kids, grandma's, and people rehabing a shoulder injury. if you want some serious gameplay with some depth - you dont by a wii. There might be a couple Wii games out there with depth and complexity but for the most - ITS A MARIO PARTY MACHINE!!! YAY

nice trolling. this is just exactly what john is talking about

welcome hus nr2.



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theshoe23 on 02 October 2007

Argh, John Lucas, do you realize that the your whole original post can be applied to either of the other two competing consoles? Especially the PS3? I don't necessary agree with the troll, but I also don't agree with your post. The Wii is cool, and fun, but face it, it will eventually be over taken by one of the other consoles. I've said it once and I'll say it again, if graphics didn't matter we would be playing NEW games that look like Frogger.



Words Of Wisdom on 02 October 2007
theshoe23 said:

 I've said it once and I'll say it again, if graphics didn't matter we would be playing NEW games that look like Frogger.

If gameplay didn't matter more than graphics, movies would have completely wiped out video games ages ago.



MontanaHatchet on 02 October 2007
Words Of Wisdom said:
theshoe23 said:

I've said it once and I'll say it again, if graphics didn't matter we would be playing NEW games that look like Frogger.

If gameplay didn't matter more than graphics, movies would have completely wiped out video games ages ago.

He didn't say graphics was equally or more important, but that they do matter. Besides, movies aren't interactive.

As for this whole thread, I'm loving my Wii right now, but I HAVE A REASON TO BITCH!!!

Look, I flew all the way out to goddamn Alaska to get a Wii on launch.....ALASKA!!!

From Maryland, that was two long ass plane rides. And I did it because I thought the Wii would be so great. And it was collecting dust for months on end. Only now that I've spent more than $200 on random Wii games and accessories am I finding anything mildly entertaining.