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xlost8 on 29 June 2009

His predictions or so called hype boosts on online forums is getting really old quick. How the hell will the 360 come in third place and its the cheaper console and has the most 3rd party support than the PS3. I mean clearly he is seeing the whole idea backwards maybe he thinks the PS3 is $200 and it has the most 3rd party games out there currently and Halo is a dead franchise?

I mean thats what he is basically saying because the PS3 might have a nice selection of software to release in the coming months and years but the 360 does have some decent amount of titles to back fire also.



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xlost8 on 29 June 2009

I always thought he was a fanboy of Sony's to begin with. It clearly shows with his prediction selection.



nojustno on 29 June 2009

There's no way to know and pachter is pretty much always wrong. I do find it more likely though that MS will do anything to stay above sony regardless of losses because the want to build up a big brand. Sony on the other hand will prob try to focus more on profitability in the future. Plus there's the natal factor...

srsly no way to know




JaggedSac on 29 June 2009

A Pachter prediction getting some credence at VGChartz? How did this happen?



richardhutnik on 29 June 2009
chriscox1121 said:
they are not catching them by 2011. They have been saying that Sony will catch Microsoft every year that goes by and nothing changes. Microsoft outsells them every year. They can't catch Microsoft at this point

I would like to see a scenario where that happens, by 2011.  Even END of 2011, which is 2.5 years from now.  Sony has to start consistently pulling a lead month after month over the 360 worldwide.  And I think a price cut is essential to that.  It also would presume that Microsoft would sit back and do nothing.  Besides this, Sony has to execute perfectly.  I am curious what this "execute perfectly" is with Microsoft dropping the ball.  Anyone have a scenario for this?

The prediction of his feels like a fanboy pull out of the gut, because it feels right, prediction.  Someone PLEASE don't tell me that is the basis for what the Pachters of the world do.  It is pathetic if it is so.

 

 



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crumas2 on 29 June 2009

Pachter contradicts himself by saying the 360 will fall into third place, then saying that by the end of the generation the 360 and PS3 will be tied at 26%. Does anybody proof his articles before they're published?



Seece on 29 June 2009
JaggedSac said:
A Pachter prediction getting some credence at VGChartz? How did this happen?

It swings in Sonys favour :-p



 

Grooski on 29 June 2009
crumas2 said:
Pachter contradicts himself by saying the 360 will fall into third place, then saying that by the end of the generation the 360 and PS3 will be tied at 26%. Does anybody proof his articles before they're published?


The article states that the figures Pachter uses excludes Japan. Naturally if there is a 26% tie on each platform, then Japan tips in favour of Sony.



theRepublic on 29 June 2009
richardhutnik said:
chriscox1121 said:
they are not catching them by 2011. They have been saying that Sony will catch Microsoft every year that goes by and nothing changes. Microsoft outsells them every year. They can't catch Microsoft at this point

I would like to see a scenario where that happens, by 2011.  Even END of 2011, which is 2.5 years from now.  Sony has to start consistently pulling a lead month after month over the 360 worldwide.  And I think a price cut is essential to that.  It also would presume that Microsoft would sit back and do nothing.  Besides this, Sony has to execute perfectly.  I am curious what this "execute perfectly" is with Microsoft dropping the ball.  Anyone have a scenario for this?

The prediction of his feels like a fanboy pull out of the gut, because it feels right, prediction.  Someone PLEASE don't tell me that is the basis for what the Pachters of the world do.  It is pathetic if it is so.

Check my post above for what the PS3 would have to do to make this prediction come true.  I don't think there is any possible way for it to happen though.  Maybe a $100 PS3 price cut right now (and another price cut sometime later) with zero response from Microsoft for the next 2.5 years might make it happen.



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theRepublic on 29 June 2009
crumas2 said:
Pachter contradicts himself by saying the 360 will fall into third place, then saying that by the end of the generation the 360 and PS3 will be tied at 26%. Does anybody proof his articles before they're published?

You have to read more of the article for the headline to make sense.

"We think that the PS3 will capture significant market share, primarily due to Sony’s victory in the high definition DVD format war, and will end up in second place by 2015. Although Microsoft’s Xbox 360 enjoyed a first mover advantage, we think that its market position will fade to third place due to lack of penetration in Japan. We expect the Wii to capture 49% share of the U.S. and European market by the end of 2009, followed by the Xbox 360 at 29% and the PS3 at 22%. By the end of 2011 (the extent of our current forecast), we see Nintendo 'winning' the console war by maintaining its share, with 48% of this market. We expect Sony to pull even with Microsoft, each with 26% market share. Notwithstanding the projected finish, we truly believe that all three manufacturers should be considered 'winners', with Microsoft selling twice as many Xbox 360s as Xboxes and building a robust Xbox Live business, and with the other two companies generating significant profits from their respective shares. These estimates do not include console sales in Japan, which we expect to be dominated by Nintendo with over 65% market share through 2011."



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