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Tony_Parker said: Ok here we go...
What will slow down 360 sales? - The lack of exclusives, it will slow down because people will more and more prefer PS3, especially if it's not 400$ anymore. And The Sony exclusive have been cuasing fires at game retailers? KZ2 comes to mind...
Natal and Sonys mOtion control are not on the same level...your just being biased becuase your a PS3 fanboy...The BrickBall game owns anything Eyetoy has shown..and the it's just a Prototype game... - No. Natal is mostly an Eyetoy ripoff, so welcome in 2004 MS. Sony on the other hand has a better motion control since it tracks 1:1, doesn't lag and, it's most important, it has buttons, hence it can be used in real games, where Natal will always lack precision. Multiple analysts and websites said the same thing as I do. I'm sure you played both to make that comaparison on it's precision. I have also read reports from people who played with NATAL and how amazed they were and also saw Jimmy Fallon play it on his show....Saw no lag what so ever
360 was always heade for 3rd place? - well, yes, until MS chooses to buy studios and bring something to the industry, like Sony does. You can't compete with 3 studios when your competitor has 20. But MS will still be satisfied with the results and the profit. Game sales for Ps3 come to mind...I will agree though...Sony's portfolio could explode unto the PS3 at any point...but i suggest not holding your breath...And don't forget that Sony has a long generation(Ps1) ahead of MS
We were fooled? - only if you bought the HDDVD drive, otherwise 360 is a nice console, just with a bit less exclusives. I was not and for the most part...I don't think anyone else did....
this is the same as a format war? - like when blueray won and killed MS HDDVD ? not exactly, not sure what you mean. It's more like when PS2 killed the Xbox 1. MS was not resposible for HD-DVD Toshiba was. MS took a chance with Nvidia....and hurt for it...Sony did the same thing with the Ps3 and ended up in the same place if not hurting more.
we were blind? - no, both consoles are good. PS3 is a bit better but a bit more expansive. Having both is optimal. Ps3 has blu-ray..I will concede to that....
BR won? or Samsung and Toshiba lost? - Both. BR will be more than 50 % of the market soon according to multiple analysts. So BR definitely won, but BR doom threads and posts are still fun now that the HDDVD drive became a cup handler. Analyst are not always right....Though BR has the Advantage of being push with every new movie release.
We habor resentment towards Sony? - Now, I think you're mostly young and it was the cool thing to do to hat on Sony. Some of you just happen to prefer MS 360 too (if you're a shooter fan, it's certainly understandable). Some of you just don't have the money to buy a PS3. I'm 29. Xbox had Panzer Dragoon Orta, and Halo took over my love for Quake...Also Crimson Skies was Hawsome...The Xbox was a solid machine...But it was burning too much money.
And your opinions about the 360 are clean and unbiased? - Definitely not. Still, I have a 360. I was big a Killzone fan...at one point
Welcome to 2009...6 months gone and Xbox 360 is the only console to have growth in the market share.....with the games lineup coming 2009 you expect the 360 to lose steam? - It's no wonder considering it's the only one that cut price in half. Very funny and delusional question, my friend. I expect the 360 to lose steam like it did before the price cut and like it does right now if you look closely (week after week, PS3/360 weekly sales gap tend to decrease). The few 2009 exclusives that will (finally, there have been nothing since last november as exclusive on 360) come will certainly boost 360 sales, but they will still lag behind PS3 sales when the price cut and GT5 will arrive (before the end of 2009) Halo wars,Star Ocean 4 ,Ninja Blade (sure only one sold well and Ninja Blade had no marketing besides flash ads) and a few others...yes the 360 focused on DLC for the first half of 2009..a stratergy that i appluad. With the PS3 having a hard time in Japan Sony is poised to take number 2? - PS3 doesn't have at all a hard time in Japan. Actually in one less year than 360, it sold 3 times more if I remember correctly (3 million vs 1 million). So yeah, Japan will definitely help, but Europe is helping too. 10k sales? and for quite a few different weeks. I agree UK is good for the PS3...Japan..Not so good...And why would the Xbox 360 sell in Japan? It's biggest games are FPS and TPS.
With the Ps3 losing to 360 you expect the Wii sales not to affect it? - ? The PS3 is winning against 360 since it sold more on the same time frame from launch. If you talk about total installed base, PS2 wins by far. Wii is second. You go off topic.....Xbox 360 is outselling the PS3, Wii sales are not helping its cuase in Japan...In others it's holding ground...But an Older console with less big name games this year has outsold it every week so far in UK.
When will Multiplat games do better on Ps3..After the Pricecut? - They already do, like RE5 or SF4. Of course, after the price cut, it will be even worse. Shooters will still probably sell more on 360. With almost no sales coming in from japan for the Xbox 360 versions of these games are practically even and one of the games is making it's first appearance on the Xbox brand while having over a decade on the PS brand.
When will Multiplat devs have a better time on pS3? - Some already have (Oblivion, GTA4 - no popin, a dozen others, don't remember the names...), and of course the more the PS3 rises, the more multiplats will come better on PS3 than on 360. Like Ghostbusters?
When will Middleware engines be effective on the PS3? - The next versions will be better optimized for the PS3. Crysis engine runs the same on PS3 and 360 too. Unreal engine is already looking very outdated anyway compared to exclusives like Killzone 2 or Uncharted.
When CryEngine 3 rolls out? - See above Why do you think I follwed with this question....I was ahead of the game boi
Is not coming to 360 as well? - See above
When will Valve shut their dirty mouth about how "obscure" the PS3 harware is? - When they start making more money on PS3 than on 360, like EA, Konami and Ubi declared they did. Konami has exactly how many games on Xbox 360? EA said this?... I remember Ubi Saying this...And in the thread I pointed out how they did not have Naruto Games on the PS3 to sell to no one like they did on Xbox 360
When Will Activision take back what they said? - When HDDVD will be the successful format. So they will do it during the year of the PS3?
Will Square Enix stop supporting the Xbox 360? - They already stopped by publishing FF13 VS and FF14 exclusively on PS3. Rockstar did too with Agent (only on PS3). Rockstar has the DLC that MS dealt them selves...It's up to you to think which was a better deal. SE has games on 360 that are not making it to PS3, It's easy for a shareholder/console maker to snag exclusives.
When will Ubisoft Make exclusive PS3 games? - There are far better publishers than Ubi, but they'll probably do when MS stops distributing paychecks. Right the Monayhat thing
Can you say that the Ps3 will have a better holiday 2009 than the Xbox 360? - yeah, definitely. Gran turismo 5 + uncharted 2 + MAG + price cut kills the Xbox lineup with one hand You may not know...But GT5 has not been dated for this holiday...Maybe it does come around...and it will be good for sony...Maybe...MAG...Really?
When will the PSN be good? - it's already on par with live. It's more stable, has dedicated servers, has less down time. It lacks subscription fee though. Just kidding. It lacks cross game chat, but I wouldn't use that anyway. Last thing I want is 12 year old racist American kids crying in my ears when I play. Errmm...you would not use cross game chat so your friends can talk to you while your playing different games then they are?
When will Sony first party game achive benchmark sales? - Many of them are million sellers, some reached 2 or 3 million like gT5P, uncharted, motorstorm, that's quite good. God of war 3 will sell even more of course. Everything comes in time. Yes WW they have....2 or 3 mil;Unbundled most have not, Unchareted has not....In NA it's not even past 750.
Will Halo lose selling power? - If MS continues to milk the franchise, definitely. 4 games in 8 years? really? and one is not even an FPS.
What if GT5 does not surpass Forza 3 in terms of graphics? - Well, that wouldn't change anything since it would still be the only real simulator, the one real pilots use for training, especially considering you can't even connect a G25 to the 360. It's really unlikely though considering GT5P already has a better lighting than Forza and its plastic cars. Environments are better on Forza 3 than on GT5P though. We'll see on GT5. Plus, GT5 will always lack Forza signature rewind arcade feature. I'm not even buying Forza 3 so this was moar of a Hypothetical question.
Do you expect the PS3 slim to not have Storage limitations? - Every PS3 has no storage limitation since you can change nearly for free the hard drive to a standard 1 Tb. I know what you feel if you're used to 20 Gb on the 360, but that's the way it is on PS3. Maybe I convinced you to buy one... You think the Slim will support that feature?
Do you really belive the Ps3 slim will have both forms of network adaptors? - I really don't care about that one, Ethernet will do fine anyway. Shocked not to hear Teh WiFi
Does the Cell really make up for the Ps3 weak GPU? - Of course it does. Everything can be precalculated on the different SPUs, look at KZ2 and try to find something similar on 360 (which has a slightly better GPU but a much weaker CPU). On the long run, you've got more impressive games, like KZ2 or uncharted 2 are showing right now. But if you ask me : 'wasn't it better, had Sony just gone with the MS standard PC formula ?' My answer would be 'maybe' cause I'm not sure the money they used wasn't better used elsewhere. The jury is still out on this one. I find IBM's statements reguarding the differences between the Cell and the Xenon confusing.
Is the Xenos not a key factor in keeping the Xbox 360 with and edge? - I think it's overrated. I'm not expert on that question I think the Cell is over rated...I'm not an expert on it
My questions now :
- When will there be on 360 a game with graphics on par with Killzone 2 or uncharted 2 ? Will it happen one day ? Alan Wake
- What do you use your HDDVD drive for ? Don't have one
- Do you think the 360 is the new Wii with Natal ? I heard it was just a Eyetoy ripoff, is it true ? I watched E3 and then saw Natal played on Jimmy Fallon..NATAL is way far from the Wii....The PS3 Eye toy and Wand Combo is sure trying to be the new Wii...My friend owned the Eye toy for PS2...He felt ripped off....I don't think Natal and the Eye toy are the same...I don't think the Eye toy will let you navigate the PS3's (What ever their dashboard is called) like Natal was shown navigating the NXE. it does not seem like a ripped off the Eye toy since NATAL does full body tracking and Head Tracking(Milo)as well. Sony throws Eye toy around in the same sentence with God of War 3 and Bungie does it for Natal with Halo Reach.
- How many AAA exclusives were released on 360 this year until now ? I heard it was zero. PS3 had 4. And what were the sales for these exclusives on PS3? Outsold by Halo 3 much?
- How do you compete in content with 3 studios when your competitor has 20+ ? I don't own MS so I don't know how they plan to do it...
- If people like the 360 so much, why does the PS3 sell the same every week while costing twice as much ?
Good night my friend, see you soon... on the PSN ?
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