Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy 4, Fire Emblem RD, Dragon Quest 2, 4, 5, 8, Tales of Phantasia/Symphonia, Lufia 2, Breath of Fire 2, Paper Mario series

That won`t work

1) I am not an idiot, I don`t play a RPG for stories. If I wanted a good plot I would read a book(and I usually do, that is why I know when a story is rotten).

2) The best I hope for a RPG plot is to either entertain me or not get into the way by being retarded. That is why I have no problem with simple or generic (to some degree) stories.

3) I am not a insecure kid who lose his reason to live when someone tell me one of my favorite games suck. So if you find flaws (real or not) with my game I won`t tell you to stop playing games. BTW that is a reference to the 2 facist sympathizers, not you.

4) CT and the Tales games plot is nothing special, but the characters are interesting. Final Fantasy 4 plot is retarded, but it was good game for its time and I love the battle system. Dragon Quest is as generic as it can get (defeat the evil lord and save the world), I play it for the classic feeling and challenge. Lufia 2 is generic but has awesome puzzles and great dungeon design. Fire Emblem had a good (more political) plot, but they screwed it at the end. That did not affect the rest of the amazing game for me. I like BOF 2 gameplay and I am indifferent to its plot. Paper Mario greatness lies in the fact that it do not take itself seriously.

Last, I would like to say that there is no such info on Wikipedia. I remember most of those games plot, I did not spend 24 hours researching (I have more important stuff to do) on these shitty games. When I make a claim about a game, I usually have a way to back it up. Ask me anything about these games (gameplay, plot, design) and I will tell what my problem is. I did not make a elaborate post on the plot of each game because that would take too much time. I just tried to remember the worst offenders.

Well, it's very well known that the game freezes. I was averaged 1 freeze every 2 hours I played during the second disc. It only froze twice in the third disc though.

Seriously, google freezing problems in star ocean 4. 

Star Ocean 3 has the worst twist in history. *spoiler*It's all a game?!! Come on!*Spoiler end*

The rest of the story is also pretty bland, but entertaining. Tri-Ace aren't exaclty known as good storytellers.

off OP topic:

IMHO the music was good, and I would like to point out that Hitoshi Sakimoto has never composed music for tri-ace games. The composer for Star Ocean and IU is Motoi Sakuraba. I also loved the battle system SO3.

That will be argued for all eternity. I still think that that twist in SO3 was masterful, I love those twists that leave you "damnit, what the fuck???"

I loved SO3's story

And I have to agree, SO3's music was excellent, and the battle system too was wonderful