ironman said:
MAFKKA said:
ironman said:
Wow, so many fanboys is utter disbelief that their "precious" console could EVER have a problem. Get over yourselves, all consoles break. Oh, and yes, and update could cause problems if it altered the way hardware processed things...which consequently, a lot of firmware updates do.
Now, this having been said, I would NOT suggest throwing your PS3 in the oven, this may temporarily fix it, however, the heat could cause components to "wear out" even faster, so next time, you may not be so lucky.
I would suggest finding a better method...like the X-clamp method for the 360. That is a permanent fix, and you can clean out the console as well as reapply heat paste. |
Feel free to scoop up some valid facts on the 2.80 update bringing "alot", or even "many" ylods. This has nothing to do about fanboyism, its about a lier being called out and fails to respond. And since i've been awake for about 25 hrs straight, i find this very annoying and feel like hurting people!
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I already told you how this was possible, stop being such a blowhard, whack a few, and hit the sack before you do yourself irreparable harm.
Now, I realize there is a differance here, but just for anctedotal evidence. My cellphone a LG Env2 (wish I could have waited for the Env3 to come out), when I first bought it, it had an older firmware version, it didn't get great battery life, didn't get great reception, and the music played quieter on it. when I reflashed my phone with the newest firmware, it got better battery life, better reception, and played music louder. Do you think that had anything to do with the firmware? Or was it just a fluke as you would suggest the YLOD is?
Firmware alters how the microprocessors work, this can create problems, or it can fix them. In this case, it either raised the heat threshhold for the console thus creating a situation where the console got too hot, or made the chips work harder and create more heat.
@ssj12, I was writing my post while you posted yours, I agree with your assesment.
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There's a lot of amatuer engineers on the internet spreading misinformation. People should never be afraid to upgrade thier firmware, unless the power goes out or something. Your understanding of what firmware is leads to confusion. Firmware can never cause or repair physical damage. If physical damage occurs, like the common cause of YLOD, it is do to defective hardware. It may be a combination of other factors that finally pushed it over the edge, but the code being exectuted is not the root cause.
To help clear this up, firmware does not alter how microprocessors work. Firmware is simply the collection of instructions that run the machine. It is the same as software or an operating system, except for with embedded devices we tend to call the operating system 'firmware'. There is absolutly no method by which a section of processor instructions could be the direct cause of physical damage to the device.
For your phone example, all those things can be explained by software upgrades. There was no physical damage to your phone causing those issues, just poorly implemented software. Cell phones often have problems with correctly reading the battery life, getting poor reception also lowers battery life. Also, cell phone firmware updates usually are accompanied by a PRL list update which will improve reception by instructing the phone which towers to use. Volume of a speaker is definitly controlled by software, the firmware update didn't physically make your speaker louder, it could always play that loud. It just instructed it to play louder.
Finally, your statement about what caused the ps3 to YLOD after a firmware update is incorrect. Thermal protection on the PS3, and practically everything else, is controlled by dedicated hardware. The system does not even need to have booted up and loaded the firmware for the thermal protection to function. This can be seen when a PS3 overheats and shuts off, it will not turn back on until the system has cooled down to acceptable levels. As for making it work harder, see my explanation of what firmware is above. The systems thermal design is calculated to be able to dissipate as much heat as the chips can muster, these calculations are done for every consumer device. Thermal failure is the result of the environment or faulty manufacturing.
Sorry to be so argumentative on my first post (maybe my first post? dont know). But I've been feeling the need to clear this issue up for a while now
