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Forums - Sales - Wii to sell more than PS2 LTD by the end of this gen?

SamuelRSmith on 24 June 2009
samus aran rules said:
Onyxmeth said:
samus aran rules said:
Onyxmeth said:

I think it will, but by the time it gets around to it, no one will care any more because the DS will have done it first. Now do I think the Wii will outsell the DS in lifetime sales? No I don't.


I think you´re right about Wii not catching DS but I think it´s both wrong and not relevant to compare consoles with portables. They are competing on different terms and should not be compared. I always compare portables vs portables and consoles vs consoles. My two cent anyway.

I don't understand. Why can't they be compared? They pull in comparitive sales numbers, do they not?


Well I think that portables have a higher upper level that is possible to achieve in salesnumbers. If you think of it this way: let´s say a family like videogames. They buy a Wii console which the whole family play on, then they have three children where the brother and sister both want their own Nintendo DS. They refuse to share and mom and dad buys them one each. That´s two DS vs one Wii. And older kids most likely buy one portable for their own even if one or more member of their own family owns one as well. Escpecially Japan is totally crazy about portables where they sell to amounts that consoles simply cannot. I don´t think it´s fair to compare portables with consoles saleswise.

(Also portables generally come at a much lower price than consoles but that is perhaps besides the point since consoles also differ in prices. It´s quite a big difference in price for PS3 and the cheapest version of 360 for instance.)

I have a huge problem with that. How many bad parents are there? If my kids refused to share a handheld/console/whatever, neither of them would get shit more than a sack of potatoes - around their face. Spoiled fuckers.



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BladeOfGod on 24 June 2009
Arius Dion said:
BladeOfGod said:
Why do we have to have the thread with this question every 2 months???

Just because wii is selling faster doesnt mean its gonna outsell PS2. GBA was selling faster than PS2 as well but it didnt outsold it because when DS came out, GBA pretty much died. That's how Nintenndo consoles/handhelds works. When the next one comes out the last one dies.

Not true at all, maybe in the GBA's case but that would be an exception to the rule when Nintendo has the marketleading console. NES was manufactured for 20 yrs (Sony's 10 yr plan x's 2) and the SNES for I think 14yrs, so there goes that theory..Though I also grow tired of these constant threads.

i didnt said disconected i said died. Yes NES lasted for 20 years but last game made for NES was in 1995,and i dont think NES sold 5k in 1995 while PS1 lasted till 2005 and the last game made for it was in 2005.



NYANKS on 24 June 2009
Onyxmeth said:

I think it will, but by the time it gets around to it, no one will care any more because the DS will have done it first. Now do I think the Wii will outsell the DS in lifetime sales? No I don't.


This just doesn't seem as impressive as the Wii doing it.  All these Ninty handhelds do insane numbers, it seems a console, which is more expensive, doing it would be more important.  I think a lot of people will care, in fact I think the DS reception will be lackluster compared to if and when the Wii does it. 



BladeOfGod on 24 June 2009
RolStoppable said:
Alterego-X said:
BladeOfGod said:
Why do we have to have the thread with this question every 2 months???

Just because wii is selling faster doesnt mean its gonna outsell PS2. GBA was selling faster than PS2 as well but it didnt outsold it because when DS came out, GBA pretty much died. That's how Nintenndo consoles/handhelds works. When the next one comes out the last one dies.

It is ridiculous! Your theory suggests that regardless of the object itself, and even the company's plan with it, any console with "Nintendo" written on it is predestinated to die after a successor is released, while the "Sony/Playstation" brands give a magical boost to the longetivity.

 

PS1, PS2, and, as Arius Dion pointed out, the NES, were popular for an extraordinary long time, because they were already the most popular consoles to begin with. It is the customers who keep alive a console, by buying it. This is why Sony's ten year plan sounds ridiculous, too. They might keep it on the market, if they wish, but with the PS3's lack of an early momentum, but unless they somehow make it appealing, people won't keep buying it just because it is Sony.  

 

GBA must be an unique case, as it wasn't even discuntinued by Nintendo at the DS's release, people just stopped buying it. But I'm sure that somehow it was the product's fault, and not the Curse Of The Nintendo Logo, that forced people to leave it on the shelves.

The Wii may suffer the same fate, if somehow they commited the same business mistake as with the GBA, or not, if they didn't. 

The GBA sold more than 20 million units after the DS was launched. That's roughly a quarter of the GBA's entire lifetime sales and hardly a sudden death, especially when we consider that the GBA managed to outsell the PS3 monthly in the USA in spring 2007, two and a half years after the launch of the DS in that region. That's not too shabby for a "dead" system like BladeOfGod called it.

link?

 

PS: PS2 won the holiday season 2007, i guess that's not too shabby for a ''dead'' system like everybody calls it.



Onyxmeth on 24 June 2009
BladeOfGod said:
Arius Dion said:
BladeOfGod said:
Why do we have to have the thread with this question every 2 months???

Just because wii is selling faster doesnt mean its gonna outsell PS2. GBA was selling faster than PS2 as well but it didnt outsold it because when DS came out, GBA pretty much died. That's how Nintenndo consoles/handhelds works. When the next one comes out the last one dies.

Not true at all, maybe in the GBA's case but that would be an exception to the rule when Nintendo has the marketleading console. NES was manufactured for 20 yrs (Sony's 10 yr plan x's 2) and the SNES for I think 14yrs, so there goes that theory..Though I also grow tired of these constant threads.

i didnt said disconected i said died. Yes NES lasted for 20 years but last game made for NES was in 1995,and i dont think NES sold 5k in 1995 while PS1 lasted till 2005 and the last game made for it was in 2005.

So basically you're saying that both the NES and PSOne lasted approximately five years after their predecessors came out. I know you were trying to paint the PSOne as the rosier of the two pictures, but if you crunch the numbers, you'll realize each had it's last game released roughy five years after their predecessor consoles arrived.



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NightDragon83 on 24 June 2009

Assuming Nintendo doesn't introduce an entirely new system within the next 3-4 years, then yes, the Wii should be able to surpass PS2's lifetime sales at some point.



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You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

BladeOfGod on 25 June 2009

^ first link are american sales only



Pineapple on 25 June 2009
BladeOfGod said:
^ first link are american sales only

Look up. What did Rol claim?

"especially when we consider that the GBA managed to outsell the PS3 monthly in the USA in spring 2007"

You asked for a link, and he backed his claim up.



BladeOfGod on 25 June 2009
Pineapple said:
BladeOfGod said:
^ first link are american sales only

Look up. What did Rol claim?

"especially when we consider that the GBA managed to outsell the PS3 monthly in the USA in spring 2007"

You asked for a link, and he backed his claim up.


i asked for link where it says GBA sold 20 million after DS was launched.



Pineapple on 25 June 2009
BladeOfGod said:
Pineapple said:
BladeOfGod said:
^ first link are american sales only

Look up. What did Rol claim?

"especially when we consider that the GBA managed to outsell the PS3 monthly in the USA in spring 2007"

You asked for a link, and he backed his claim up.


i asked for link where it says GBA sold 20 million after DS was launched.

No you didn't. You just said "link". You didn't really specify what you wanted a link for, so assuming it was the first claim, rather than the second, is logical.

If you look here: http://vgchartz.com/hwtable.php?cons%5B%5D=GBA&reg%5B%5D=Total&start=38319&end=39978 you will see that the GBA sold 21.8 million since the DS first launched in Americas.

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