Your right of course carl E3 was great in the way that it proved many very vocal people wrong.(although metal gear is coming to the 360 just not 4 so I cant give them to much hell just a little lol)
Dallinor the same could be said about ps3 fans always going on about how much mmore powerful the ps3 is. The point of this thread was actually aimed at the people who at every turn love to try and say that the 360 is maxed out and maybe they really thought this and here is the chance to say that they were wrong.
This thread in no way about which console is the most powerful or any of that crap because for me personaly I just dont see that much diff to get bent out of shape it all comes down to which one you like best.

I guess my overall point is to show that when people act like fanboys and talk about stuff they have no REAL know how about it will come back and bite you. It goes for the stuff said against the ps3 as much as the stuff against the 360

Wow, really? He was saying that mathmatically the Forza3 cars are greater than the PS3 would be capable of. Not that it really matters during gameplay because I'm sure you aren't gloating over how the car you are driving has more polygons than the PS3 is supposedly capable of producing. 

Oh, and stop all the crying about one system or another being maxed out, game devs will come up with better graphics machines, and more creative ways to make games look better than anybody though possible on either of these systems. 

Nobody with half a brain actually thought the 360 was maxed out in graphics in the first place. If anyone did, they really need to see a doctor.

I don't think I said anything prior to E3 that wound up being proven wrong......but give me some of that crow! It tastes pretty good with barbecue sauce!!!

Developers just say that to hype up a game. then the fanboys take it way out of proportion

Forza 3 is definitely the best graphics in a console game so far. GT5 might surpass it, but that is a year away. Crow eaten, confirmed.

Actually, I will have some crow. Plain, please, with extra feathers. I've been hating on Bayonetta since I saw the first trailer (I even made a thread about how horrible it looked), and it has been getting nothing but positive reactions from the media. I'm not to big to admit when I'm wrong.

what did gametrailers gave best grafix to?

Why listen to fanboys in the first place?