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Taz! on 17 June 2009

@ Kowenicki

I think MS will be very unhappy right now. The 360 whilst currently being profitable, still hasn't made them a return. This is the 360's most profitable point, so they will be wanting sales maximisation. If they let these times slip then it will be bad news for them. Sales will dry out unless they cut the price again, but cutting the price reduces their profits per console.

I do agree though that overall this Gen they will be pleased, but right now Im not so sure..



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Squilliam on 17 June 2009
Carl2291 said:
I think what Darth is trying to say,
is that the gap of sales currently between PS3 and 360... is small, compared to what it SHOULD be with the entry level prices.

@squilliam
Why do you think europe dont like the 360?


I already stated it really... Theres no real difference in the consoles, and Sonys only Euro specific big release hasn't even come out yet.



Tease.

Aj_habfan on 17 June 2009
darthdevidem01 said:
PS3 -- wow.....doing very good, SONy don't need to drop price when its so close to 360

360 -- Its £30 more than PS2 (cheapest model), If I was MS, I would be disappointed.....VERY disappointed

Wii -- Very good

DS -- ULTRA good

PSP -- Poor

PSP is poor but PS3 is wow? You're hilarious man.

All you do is look at price and make all your choices from there. SO many factors are present that you ignore.

How about this. You list me all the PS3 releases in Others in the past month, and compare with the PSP releases. Hey, I'll do it for you:

 

PS3:                                                                          

Bionic Commando                                                    
Damnation
UFC 2009 Undisputed
Guitar Hero: Metallica
inFAMOUS
Terminator Salvation
SBK Superbike World Championship
Virtua Tennis 2009
Fuel
Red Faction Guerilla
Sacred 2: Fallen Angel
Prototype

 

PSP:

SBK09 Superbike World Championship
Valhalla Knights 2

 

My, with all those new releases PSP can't sell more? SHOCKING! The fact that PSP can beat the PS3 off of it's backlog is great, not poor. There is much more that goes into a sale than the price.

...and least PSP is making Sony a profit, rather than crippling them.



blizzid on 17 June 2009

A year ago Sony was outselling Microsoft in Europe nearly 2-to-1. For most of that year they were outselling Microsoft by at least 50%. Microsoft not only erased that sales gap, but now outsells Sony every week. Microsoft did this without taking significant financial losses; in fact, their gaming division is in better financial shape than Sony's. And despite all this, Microsoft is the one who should be disappointed? While Sony is the one who should be happy? What kind of twisted logic is that?

The price difference argument would be logical if the two consoles had similar manufacturing costs, but they don't. Sony screwed up their hardware design from the start, creating a console with manufacturing costs far greater than their projections indicated. They'll be paying the price for that mistake for the entire generation. Their competitors will always be able to undercut them.

Microsoft screwed up their hardware design too, of course (hello RRoD). Even if the reliability issues are fixed now - and it's debatable whether they are - the public perception of "Xbox = unreliable" is going to haunt Microsoft for a long, long time.



darthdevidem01 on 17 June 2009

@soriku

I don't know if SONY is happy or not......in fact they probably are in EU

but I'm happy with PS3's sales

EDIT: Are some people incapable of reading, for the last time I am talking about RAW SALEs & what Ms must be feeling about those

If I was them I'd be disappointed

I didn't mention profit at all, stop putting words in my mouth, reply back with something to do with the sales in the OP, as I'm not talking about profits at all.



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XxXProphecyXxX on 17 June 2009
blizzid said:
A year ago Sony was outselling Microsoft in Europe nearly 2-to-1. For most of that year they were outselling Microsoft by at least 50%. Microsoft not only erased that sales gap, but now outsells Sony every week. Microsoft did this without taking significant financial losses; in fact, their gaming division is in better financial shape than Sony's. And despite all this, Microsoft is the one who should be disappointed? While Sony is the one who should be happy? What kind of twisted logic is that?

The price difference argument would be logical if the two consoles had similar manufacturing costs, but they don't. Sony screwed up their hardware design from the start, creating a console with manufacturing costs far greater than their projections indicated. They'll be paying the price for that mistake for the entire generation. Their competitors will always be able to undercut them.

Microsoft screwed up their hardware design too, of course (hello RRoD). Even if the reliability issues are fixed now - and it's debatable whether they are - the public perception of "Xbox = unreliable" is going to haunt Microsoft for a long, long time.

@ first bolded

you know why? because sony cut the price of ps3.

@second bolded

you know why? because MS cut the price of 360.



invetedlotus123 on 17 June 2009

Next-Gen everything ms needs to do to the RRoD problem be an issue is just giving a 3 years warranty since realese... Doing so even if the hardware is reliable it just wouldn't be a problem, since i would get another for "free" if i had some problem.



kirby007 on 17 June 2009

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Xen on 17 June 2009
XxXProphecyXxX said:
blizzid said:
A year ago Sony was outselling Microsoft in Europe nearly 2-to-1. For most of that year they were outselling Microsoft by at least 50%. Microsoft not only erased that sales gap, but now outsells Sony every week. Microsoft did this without taking significant financial losses; in fact, their gaming division is in better financial shape than Sony's. And despite all this, Microsoft is the one who should be disappointed? While Sony is the one who should be happy? What kind of twisted logic is that?

The price difference argument would be logical if the two consoles had similar manufacturing costs, but they don't. Sony screwed up their hardware design from the start, creating a console with manufacturing costs far greater than their projections indicated. They'll be paying the price for that mistake for the entire generation. Their competitors will always be able to undercut them.

Microsoft screwed up their hardware design too, of course (hello RRoD). Even if the reliability issues are fixed now - and it's debatable whether they are - the public perception of "Xbox = unreliable" is going to haunt Microsoft for a long, long time.

@ first bolded

you know why? because sony cut the price of ps3.

@second bolded

you know why? because MS cut the price of 360.

Twice in the same year :P



blizzid on 17 June 2009
Xen said:
XxXProphecyXxX said:
blizzid said:
A year ago Sony was outselling Microsoft in Europe nearly 2-to-1. For most of that year they were outselling Microsoft by at least 50%. Microsoft not only erased that sales gap, but now outsells Sony every week. Microsoft did this without taking significant financial losses; in fact, their gaming division is in better financial shape than Sony's. And despite all this, Microsoft is the one who should be disappointed? While Sony is the one who should be happy? What kind of twisted logic is that?

The price difference argument would be logical if the two consoles had similar manufacturing costs, but they don't. Sony screwed up their hardware design from the start, creating a console with manufacturing costs far greater than their projections indicated. They'll be paying the price for that mistake for the entire generation. Their competitors will always be able to undercut them.

Microsoft screwed up their hardware design too, of course (hello RRoD). Even if the reliability issues are fixed now - and it's debatable whether they are - the public perception of "Xbox = unreliable" is going to haunt Microsoft for a long, long time.

@ first bolded

you know why? because sony cut the price of ps3.

@second bolded

you know why? because MS cut the price of 360.

Twice in the same year :P


And it worked. That's the advantage of making a console that's cheap to manufacture: it gives you options like that - options which your closest competitor doesn't have.