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the dude has interesting points, but i don't agree completely. If he believes that motion controls are the future of console gaming, then he is wrong. I like the wii, but no way am i giving up on games that i love on my ps3. But i do believe that nintendo has created a new segment of console gaming, not the future of all console gaming itself, or at least i hope not...



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Cypher1980 said:
Soon the Darkside will be irresistable and will crush the MS rebel scum underfoot.

The Wii owners are like Ewoks. The Evil empire will tolerate them but turn their forest moon into a secret base.

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@ Squilliam

I do absolutely believe that microsoft id targeting wii's audience or at least people that may want a wii because certainly my friends who i consider core gamers would never touch natal - i'd like to see them play COD without a controller...

and honestly i have no idea of why spielberg was there, that segment was just boring as fuck, and all that microsoft speaker did was smile like an idiot and do a lot of clapping when no one else was, i thought he was a retard or something when i started watching the video



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Cypher1980 said:
Soon the Darkside will be irresistable and will crush the MS rebel scum underfoot.

The Wii owners are like Ewoks. The Evil empire will tolerate them but turn their forest moon into a secret base.

Shadowblind said:

You put too much effort into this Squilliam. Anything malstron related usually douesn't deserve anything more then a few sentences that in summary state "lol. Whatever makes you happy."

Sorry, I was bored.

@Skip: Spielburg may have been there because he wanted to be. Its not like hes short on money or anything so endorsing products he doesn't believe in would make no sense. He may actually believe in Natal surprising as it sounds.



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@Squilliam

I'm not cherrypicking or anything, but one thing you posted in your pink-fonted respnse to Malstrom threw me off.


How is Sony targeting Nintendo's upstream? If they are, they have FAILED miserably.


Microsoft already has the core gamers for the 360, its not like they need more help getting them. You say Nintendo can't get all the casuals, but they rule the party game scene, and the fitness sector. The only casual area I could imagine they don't dominate in is licensed games, but those barely ever do well.



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SaviorX said:
@Squilliam

I'm not cherrypicking or anything, but one thing you posted in your pink-fonted respnse to Malstrom threw me off.


How is Sony targeting Nintendo's upstream? If they are, they have FAILED miserably.


Microsoft already has the core gamers for the 360, its not like they need more help getting them. You say Nintendo can't get all the casuals, but they rule the party game scene, and the fitness sector. The only casual area I could imagine they don't dominate in is licensed games, but those barely ever do well.

I was talking about Wii M+ vs Sony's Mii2 wand. They surely haven't failed miserably if they haven't released yet have they?

Core vs Casual? Well thats bullcrap really. One of my friends is a massive Tekken fan who also loves Pokemon. My other friend is one of the best Age of Empires 3 players in the world and his favourite games for the Xbox 360 is Kung Fu Panda and Lego Indiana Jones. The moment you start thinking along those lines you've already stopped thinking.

Theres a huge market of people who don't own consoles for a variety of reasons. So if Microsoft can make a console relevant to them in ways Nintendo doesn't then they can secure that market segment. If there are people who want both a Wii and an Xbox 360 then obviously they aren't catering to the Xbox 360 owners as well as they could. Movies, music, games, game shows (100 vs 1), education, communication, fitness, interface are all areas where Natal is applicable.



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xtastemyvenom said:
He is just whining because Nintendo isn't front and center at the moment with the media. He is mad because people are talking about Natal and not WM+.

Cry me a river whiner.


This guy comes off as a pretentious ass. Excuse the language. I don't like him.

While some of the things he says and has already said may have ended up being true, he could have done it without being a complete dick and trash talking "hardcore" gamers and the like. This guy gives the Wii gamers a bad name in my opinion.

We'll see how the sales of the third parties with M+are.  Natal hype will decrease greatly by the time WSR is out.  Also, I heard Milo is nothing compared to what was shown.  If it's going to be a year before they get this thing out do you seriously think Nintendo hasn't already begun working on something new.  

Side Note.  I think xbox is going to repackage their next system much like the wii did with gamecube.  Slight improvements, but overall the same thing.




also, i thought Nintendo wasn't sony's or MS competition. they laughed at Nintendo from the beggining and now they all wanna be like Nintendo. It's funny how the sony and MS camp thought Motion controls were stupid, casual, and was a fad. But, now they are the best thing eva.....lol




Has this guy ever written a non-nintendo fanboy article?
In his eyes it looks like Nintendo = disruption.

Well guess what, Sega genesis = disruption towards then Nintendo empire in gearing the games to a more mature audience
Sony playstation = disruption for tecnology advancements and selling hardware at a loss.

Malstrom should really get off his Nintendo high horse...
Yes Nintendo is number 1 thanks to their disruption, but there was time when nintendo was being disrupted.



disolitude said:
Has this guy ever written a non-nintendo fanboy article?
In his eyes it looks like Nintendo = disruption.

Well guess what, Sega genesis = disruption towards then Nintendo empire in gearing the games to a more mature audience
Sony playstation = disruption for tecnology advancements and selling hardware at a loss.

Malstrom should really get off his Nintendo high horse...
Yes Nintendo is number 1 thanks to their disruption, but there was time when nintendo was being disrupted.

Actually he's very respectful to sega, but he notes that Sony playstation was not a disruption



 

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this guy is a complete dumb a$$ and should stfu.



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