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Dark Chaos said:
zexen_lowe said:
Dark Chaos said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Dark Chaos said:
Wow 360 numbers are amazing compared to the PS3. Looks like Sony's last strong hold is not so strong any more.

I'm confused. Are there only 2 console makers out there? Japan hasn't been Sony's stronghold since like...2005 or so.

I am talking about HD consoles and the battle for second place. SONY vs MS. In the beginning with the PS2. SONY had dominance in every region. Then when the PS3 released they lost NA. Now they are losing Europe, lost Others and not even dominating Japan

Yeah, it's not dominating at all,  it only has more than 3 times the install base

Compared to 40:1 for PS2 vs Xbox????

Who said anything about compared to? Point is, you make it sound as if the 360 was catching the PS3 in the upcoming weeks




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Dark Chaos said:
Taz! said:
Dark Chaos said:
zexen_lowe said:
Dark Chaos said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Dark Chaos said:
Wow 360 numbers are amazing compared to the PS3. Looks like Sony's last strong hold is not so strong any more.

I'm confused. Are there only 2 console makers out there? Japan hasn't been Sony's stronghold since like...2005 or so.

I am talking about HD consoles and the battle for second place. SONY vs MS. In the beginning with the PS2. SONY had dominance in every region. Then when the PS3 released they lost NA. Now they are losing Europe, lost Others and not even dominating Japan

Yeah, it's not dominating at all,  it only has more than 3 times the install base

Compared to 40:1 for PS2 vs Xbox????

Yes, but that has alot more to do with the 360 outperforming the Xbox rather than the PS3 doing poorly.

Look at this link:

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=PS2&reg1=Japan&cons2=PS3&reg2=Japan&cons3=PS2&reg3=Japan&weeks=156

It shows at this point in time PS2 had more than 10Million in sales. This ratio is not only due to the 360 doing much better but the PS3 doing much worse. The PS3 is absolutely horrible compared to the PS2 and there no way to spin this

Read my damn post.

I said it had 'more' to do with the 360 doing better. Yes, the PS3 doing crap compared to the PS2 still effects it greatly, but the 360 doing far far far far far far better than the Xbox effects it MORE



@Dark Chaos


Think outside the box please.




very good PS3/360 ratio for the 360 indeed ....

;(



Time to Work !

Ps2 was the first place console last gen in Japan, now this place belongs to DS, so, comparing 360 with DS and PS3 with DS would be the right thing to do. So, we have a 30:1 ratio with DS:360 and 10:1 DS:ps3. Both are terrible, but at least ps3 have 3 million sellers for sure in Japan Alone (FFXIII,FFversusXIII and GT5).

Japan will never be what used to be, it's time to expand to other regions.



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The Ps3 is "dominating" the X360 in Japan. There's really no way around that. Sure, it may not be selling 40:1 like the Ps2:XB ratio was, but if you do that, even the Wii is far from dominating. It looks like it's gonna end at less than 8:1 in Japan.

 

Edit: Nevermind, misread between PsP and Ps3 on the yearly pages (the first part is still there, just erased my second and third paragraph).



NJ5 said:
Wii sales are really bad. The only positive is that Nintendo hasn't done anything to improve them yet... no price cuts, bundles, colors and not much software lately.

The PS3 despite all of Sony's measures isn't selling well either. Another price cut is in order, plus GT5 and FF13.

The 360 is not doing bad compared to its past numbers... of course that's much easier for the 360 to do than the other two consoles.


And what exactly Sony done in that time?

All of the February/march PS3 rise was thirdy party stuff with some bundling which Sony does for most of big games there.



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Dark Chaos said:
Taz! said:
Dark Chaos said:
zexen_lowe said:
Dark Chaos said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Dark Chaos said:
Wow 360 numbers are amazing compared to the PS3. Looks like Sony's last strong hold is not so strong any more.

I'm confused. Are there only 2 console makers out there? Japan hasn't been Sony's stronghold since like...2005 or so.

I am talking about HD consoles and the battle for second place. SONY vs MS. In the beginning with the PS2. SONY had dominance in every region. Then when the PS3 released they lost NA. Now they are losing Europe, lost Others and not even dominating Japan

Yeah, it's not dominating at all,  it only has more than 3 times the install base

Compared to 40:1 for PS2 vs Xbox????

Yes, but that has alot more to do with the 360 outperforming the Xbox rather than the PS3 doing poorly.

Look at this link:

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=PS2&reg1=Japan&cons2=PS3&reg2=Japan&cons3=PS2&reg3=Japan&weeks=156

It shows at this point in time PS2 had more than 10Million in sales. This ratio is not only due to the 360 doing much better but the PS3 doing much worse. The PS3 is absolutely horrible compared to the PS2 and there no way to spin this

Alright enough, you are the one spinning this into a "PS3 is still selling like $hit compared to last generation's PS2 at the same time frame" to avoid the fact that despite being the pirce of a DS the XBOX 360 cannot outsell a console that $400 in Japan. Once the PS3 is $300(30,000 yen) and GRAN TURISMO 5 is out in japan, we will see whether or not the PS3 can close the gap with the ps2. Right now its not a fair comparison.

 



 

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leo-j said:
Dark Chaos said:
Taz! said:
Dark Chaos said:
zexen_lowe said:
Dark Chaos said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Dark Chaos said:
Wow 360 numbers are amazing compared to the PS3. Looks like Sony's last strong hold is not so strong any more.

I'm confused. Are there only 2 console makers out there? Japan hasn't been Sony's stronghold since like...2005 or so.

I am talking about HD consoles and the battle for second place. SONY vs MS. In the beginning with the PS2. SONY had dominance in every region. Then when the PS3 released they lost NA. Now they are losing Europe, lost Others and not even dominating Japan

Yeah, it's not dominating at all,  it only has more than 3 times the install base

Compared to 40:1 for PS2 vs Xbox????

Yes, but that has alot more to do with the 360 outperforming the Xbox rather than the PS3 doing poorly.

Look at this link:

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=PS2&reg1=Japan&cons2=PS3&reg2=Japan&cons3=PS2&reg3=Japan&weeks=156

It shows at this point in time PS2 had more than 10Million in sales. This ratio is not only due to the 360 doing much better but the PS3 doing much worse. The PS3 is absolutely horrible compared to the PS2 and there no way to spin this

Alright enough, you are the one spinning this into a "PS3 is still selling like $hit compared to last generation's PS2 at the same time frame" to avoid the fact that despite being the pirce of a DS the XBOX 360 cannot outsell a console that $400 in Japan.

 

where in the world is the 360 the price of the DS. ANd even it is atleast it hasn't lost as much money as SONY. Apple could sell IPods for $500 and they will still sell and they will probably be still in the top 3 world leaders. Does that make them feel good? NO. 360s price is the same as the PS2 in the equivalent time frames. Its price correctly and with all its accessories its the same price as the PS3 so stop that price argument.

We all know SONY was dumb and stupid for cramming everthing in the PS3. Dont have to rub it in. MS was smart SONY wasnt



thsoe are some pretty low sales :\ too many 4 digit numbers *closes page before eyes burn*