Xenos, the GPU in the X360 is the most powerful single hardware component in this gen.

I just wish MS goes the heavy route with the Xbox 3 as well, launching the most powerful hardware for just $399.

I buy 1st day.

only a look at RF proves the op statement, don't see a problem

Wots RF?

The people on that picture don't even look like humans. They look like monkeys. This game has cartoon graphics

Staude said: selnor said: Staude said: selnor said: Staude said: Megaman.. your thread makes me How is brink built ? Killzone 2 is only possible on playstation 3 because of the way its built. Do we know how the entire game runs etc ? the ai ? excetera. There are so many things to a game beyond just what you see right now on the screen. And even so. Killzone 2 has a look that feels like it's being rendered with skylight in realtime. Now I don't know if you've tried it. But there are so many things that makes killzone 2 killzone 2. From the atmospheric filters to the streaming (though streaming in kz2 isn't perfect :p It is in uncharted though.. Even in the car section !) The lights in the game where you can literally see reflections in your weapon all the time when you're moving simply because there are so many unique lightsources that you respond to. There are many more things. I wont go into detail. The point is killzone 2 is built to take advantage of the cell and at things like streaming and procedural processing the cell violently rapes the 360s gpu. The only reason why 360 fans keep wanting to have games that "look better" than the ps3 first partys is for bragging rights, and justification of their purchase since the old xbox had better looking games then the ps2. They don't like how the tables seems to have turned this generation. And that truly is all because of the ps3s processor. With it being able to both help the GPU and perform CPU work .. once people optimise for it, were gonna see some really nice stuff. Sony themselves said they built it so that it would take years for people to unlock it's true power. Now we can argue wether or not this is alright, but the fact is that we're seeing how fast it overtook the 360 in the first place.. and in 2010.. it looks like it's ready to speed on. (Last guardian for instance.. looks like CGI.) But the fact is that killzone 2 is not possible on the 360. This game might be. But it's using another way to achieve it's visuals that.. by the way don't (in my humble opinion) look better than killzone 2. But congrats to the 360 for getting a game that some feel matches one released on the ps3 a while back. Especially concidering the 360 has been out for a year more in the us and 1.5 years longer in europe. Also if you're basing it on those screenshots it looks like a ue 3 game. Look at the maps. Now some will probably quote me, counter "attack" but realise that this wasn't meant as an attack. But rather.. A statement. Anyways when we look at the numbers in the end the ps3 just is capable of more. If it didn't have the unique cpu it does, the 360 would have a slight edge. But with the xdr ram of the ps3 processor and the spus that can work both as cpu and gpu. It's the ps3 that has the edge. Highlighted part: This has never been proven in a game environment. MAny devs have said the fact the 360 has better ram and better GPU balances any equation the Cell MIGHT give PS3 in a game environment. So dont post speculation as fact. 1st party Sony devs "who have never worked on a 360 game ever" are the devs who say wow only possible PS3. Well of course they say that, they dont know ANY different. You mean with the exception of heavy rain developers who started the game out as multiplat but went ps3 exclusive due to technical difficulties right ?   Furthermore i said the numbers. I didn't say "if we listen to random developers" Anyways EAs guy also said that they can do a lot more with the ps3 in the end   So your counter argumentation has failed.. very fast too :p Heavy Rain was an idea and a tech demo when it was originally gonna be on 360 as well. That was 2005. By March 2006 it was Ps3 exclusive. I guarantee you niether the PS3 or 360 was Heavy Rain in 2005. The tech demo would have been on PC. The 360 code never started mate. LOL. And the EA guys were reported to say that at E3. I guess they missed the 5 360 games that destroyed every single one of their own products for graphics on any EA console game. LOL. I guess the EA guys are right then yeah? Did they miss Forza 3? So in your theory RFG developers must also be right saying PS3 is maxed out with Red Faction Guirella, and that they got it running better on 360. You just negated your own argument. Don't start one you cant win. Fact is that you argued that there were no multiplat developers who had said it and i brought two to the table. /end argument.

Staude......Where is the Heavy Rain Footage runing 360?....

And about your Heavy Rain not on Xbox 360 due to tech difficulties..Look a few pages back....Read what me a CGI talked about regarding Heavy Rain vs Alan Wake.....

Heavy Rain makes me LOL....Nothing but QtE's and cut scenes and still lacks things that Alan Wake has during gameplay....

Please..Don't use Heavy Rain as an Example....It's flawed and only on the PS3.....

Could you guys please go 'right click' then go 'delete table' and remove the massive quote trees?!?!

Heavy Rain Insults?

The fact that the videos show no clothing animation is an Insult..That FBI agent is wearing a Tie with no Clip on it...And the tie is stuck his shirt...becuase of this  the game is subpar and anyone can see that..I'm making Insults or are you not willing to accept the truth? you did before...

Please....Just becuase you think it's the god send on the PS3 does not make the Clothing in Heavy Rain have Animation...And it's Facial animations are motion captured..another Fact.....Heavy Rain as it stands is not a technical achivement and trying to deny this is simply Fanboyism......Heavy Rain is sub par in technical terms when compared to Alan Wake (Running On Xbox 360)...As far as story goes...I don't know much about Heavy Rain's story....But a Good or great Story wont Eliminate it's short commings...Until Heavy Rain delivers something as simple as Clothing Animation it's just not impressive....

And as for your whole "Gamers are not grateful this gen" take a look at Xbox 360 sales for Multi Platform games that are good.....

You lead nobody. Myself, and others will have to see/play it to be able to judge it's graphical fidelity. A multi-plat game to boot.

http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=77041

Looks like CGI-Quality and coolbeans need some time off for trolling.