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Since blu ray is more flexible than dvd i imagine they'll keep using it. Maybe go with a faster reader and a more powerful laser allowing it to read 8 layered discs.



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Each Playstation so far has used a different medium of storing games. PS1 (CD), PS2 (DVD) PS3 (BD) so I expect to see something different in PS4.



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rafichamp said:

I have been thinking, the PS2 and the PS1 both used the DVD format. The PS3 toke a different direction and decided to go with Blu-Ray. So will the PS4 have Blu-Ray too (optimized, making blu-ray CD's to hold even more data) or will they change to a different format again?

If they choose to stay with Blu-Ray with the PS4 will this be a big factor in its pricing? Will it be a positive or negative impact?

 

Tell me what YOU guys think.

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PS1 could only read CD, and the PS2 could read CD and DVDs

I reckon, because Sony has a stake in Blu-ray, as well as they make money from it, that they will try make blu-ray last, and a simply yet effective way for them to do that, is to release the PS4 with blu-ray drive, maybe something like x8 or x12 speed, along with making it compatable so that it can read 4-8 layer blu-ray discs...at least for games, and we should have something like 200 or 400 gigs on them that developers can choose to play around with for example.



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Why wouldn't they stick with Blu-Ray? Download only is not an option because games may get up to 100 GB or more. Not only will storage be a problem but 4 games at 100GB will meet or exceed most peoples download limit. DD may work for handhelds but not for consoles in the foreseeable future. I also doubt they will develop a new disk cause it's not worth the money and a 100 GB cartridge would cost at least $30 on its own.



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rafichamp said:

I have been thinking, the PS2 and the PS1 both used the DVD format. The PS3 toke a different direction and decided to go with Blu-Ray. So will the PS4 have Blu-Ray too (optimized, making blu-ray CD's to hold even more data) or will they change to a different format again?

If they choose to stay with Blu-Ray with the PS4 will this be a big factor in its pricing? Will it be a positive or negative impact?

Tell me what YOU guys think.

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I think that the PS4 will continue to use Blu-rays.  

For the people who point to the PS1, PS2, and PS3 all using different formats, consider this:  

The CD format was fairly recent, but not brand new when the PS1 released.  In fact, the Sega CD had been around for some time using the same format.  

The DVD format was pretty new when the PS2 released.  The Dreamcast, released only a year or so earlier, used a custom disc only twice as big as a CD (much much smaller than a DVD).  In fact, the fact that the PS2 was a fairly cheap DVD player was considered a significant selling point.  

The Blu-ray format was so new at the time the PS3 released that it wasn't even really ready.  It was very costly and there were shortages of the optics or diodes or something, because the technology was so new.  I guarantee you Sony wishes that the technology had been a bit more mature at the time the PS3 had to release.  

What I am suggesting by recounting these situations is that the console generations have outpaced disc technology advancement.  Even if Blu-ray gets a successor in a similar amount of time as the other two did, it will not be in time for the next gen.  

As for the people saying the PS4 will exclusively use digital distribution:  the PSP-Go may have bolstered your argument, but I really, really don't think so.  There are huge amounts of the market that cannot realistically use DD as their only way of getting games.  Sony will not turn its back on that money.  

Now, as for the OP question of what impact this will have on pricing:  obviously using a mature disc format will mean that their production cost will be much lower than it was this time.  In addition it is widely speculated that the PS4 will use an advancement of the Cell-type processor.  The PS4 will probably also be less focused on the "power struggle" which also will let Sony keep costs down.  

My own speculation is that Sony will shoot for $300 as a launch price; IIRC PS1 and PS2 both launched at this price.   



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haxxiy said:
Most likely a 12x Blu-ray drive (about 54MB/s) and 100-200GB discs will be enough.

That sounds amazing!



Yes Sony has to go simple with the PS4, so that means nothing big and different like the CD, DVD and Blu-ray was. Blu-Ray has still so much more potential, what with the 500GB Blu-ray disk, and I highly dought we'll see games as big as 500 GB in the next 5 years.

It'll be cheap and should be running at a much higher speed.



Gilgamesh said:

Yes Sony has to go simple with the PS4, so that means nothing big and different like the CD, DVD and Blu-ray was. Blu-Ray has still so much more potential, what with the 500GB Blu-ray disk, and I highly dought we'll see games as big as 500 GB in the next 5 years.

It'll be cheap and should be running at a much higher speed.

blu-ray has been in development since 1997..so it's far from new but in terms of  adoption it is for the most part. One thing already is clear by the time a new console cycle start's blu-ray will still be in the market along with DVD. Most likely Sony will indeed stick with Blu-ray since there are already 8x speed Blu-ray optical drives for PC's at $149.00 right now in 3 year's that price will be much cheaper by then.So i see Sony will still use Blu-Ray in the PS4 .



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V-r0cK said:

PS1 uses CD
PS2 uses DVD
PS3 uses Blu-ray
PS4 uses ....most certainly a new disc format.

If by the near end of the PS3's 10yr plan and a new disc format arises, its most certain that Sony will have that in their next console. You can always guarantee that Sony will try to bring in the best because thats what they do.

Digital distribution can only be side-by-side a physical format at best.  Until the world offers unlimited bandwith, extremely fast download, and continually larger HDD at a low cost, then digital distribution will never take over.

I have a 80gb PS3, say if I download MGS4 via PSN = used up 84% of my bandwith (I have a 60gb bandwith cap leaving me with 10gb of download left for the rest of the month) and that also means i cant download another big game til the next month, took up %63 of my PS3 HDD and means i cant fit at least 2 big games on my PS3, countless long hrs of inconsistant download time due to the fact that I might want to download videos on my computer etc.........but all of that was simply cut down significantly just by simply putting MGS4 on a single Blu-ray.  Thank you Sony. =)

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DD will not take over for at least 30 years. people like collecting stuff ... thats just it. also games are to big to download and store right now. Sony will stick with blu-ray till they make another movie format because they have to make money on it at some point and blu-rays are selling good right now.