Weight is probably the most important thing if Natal/SoMo want to attract the exp audience.

Without the exp audience Natal/SoMo won't get as much support.

MikeB said: theRepublic said: What does any of that have to do with the state of the current generation, MikeB? Nothing. I think it underlines many of the ideas aren't as new and innovative some fanboys think they are. PR and marketing have a major effect on people's views, for example just a few days ago an OSNews editor (I wrote articles there as well, he plans to do a review soon) tried a new updated browser (Origyn) for AmigaOS4.x and said: "Awesome, tabbed browsing on Amiga!". Not knowing tabbed browsing started on the Amiga (IBrowse) before Opera implemented this feature. He's a tech nut like me, so ordinary people are even less likely to distinguish the innovative ideas vs great copy-cat marketeers (that would refer especially to Microsoft).

That still doesn't have anything to do with the state of the generation or the OP.

MikeB said: theRepublic said: What does any of that have to do with the state of the current generation, MikeB? Nothing. I think it underlines many of the ideas aren't as new and innovative some fanboys think they are. PR and marketing have a major effect on people's views, for example just a few days ago an OSNews editor (I wrote articles there as well, he plans to do a review soon) tried a new updated browser (Origyn) for AmigaOS4.x and said: "Awesome, tabbed browsing on Amiga!". Not knowing tabbed browsing started on the Amiga (IBrowse) before Opera implemented this feature. He's a tech nut like me, so ordinary people are even less likely to distinguish the innovative ideas vs great copy-cat marketeers (that would refer especially to Microsoft).

Thomas Edison didn't invent the light bulb. He just developed the first effective and commercially viable incandescent lamp after 22 other people had built lamps which failed to achieve any notable adoption.

So was he an innovator, or just a copycat marketeer?

^It does in the way that he said the balance board was years ahead.

Years ahead compared to Sony/MS. What will it be 3-4? That's almost a generation ahead.

Pyro as Bill said: Years ahead compared to Sony/MS. What will it be 3-4? That's almost a generation ahead.

So the eyetoy was years ahead of nintendo then ? good to know :p

Staude said: Pyro as Bill said: Years ahead compared to Sony/MS. What will it be 3-4? That's almost a generation ahead. So the eyetoy was years ahead of nintendo then ? good to know :p

If that will make you happy, yes.

That isn't what the thread is about though is it?

It's not about who came first with the tech it's about which company is capable of taking it mainstream.

It's also about how Nintendo may have pre-empted the competiton's response and was ready for it years ago.

It's about how Sony/MS will fail to expand the audience without the most simple of things, a set of scales. For all the impressive tech Sony/MS showed, it still won't be as appealing to most people as WiiFit/BB.

I really hate motion controls. It is partially tolerable on my Wii, but I have zero interest in getting motion on the 360 or the PS3. I really enjoy sitting down and relaxing when I play video games. Although there is potential for motion to improve RTS on consoles, there really is very little else they can do that interests me.

I can't imagine a day when my pretend "air" steering wheel provides even remotely the same satisfaction that my Logitech wheel provides me.

@ dbot

With this I agree, but I think the Wii-mote was an excellent choice, likewise I think Sony PS3's motion controller effort seems cool and Microsoft's Milo's recognition system was interesting if it were real (but it's not, everyone could imagine this would be possible at some point, but Microsoft is still too far off to be hyping this for their console).

Realistic steering will always be best done with a steering wheel, but it takes a lot of room, also having a sword, longbow, tennis racket, etc, etc (including stuff that can only be done virtually) in your living room.

MikeB said: @ dbot I can't imagine a day when my pretend "air" steering wheel provides even remotely the same satisfaction that my Logitech wheel provides me. With this I agree, but I think the Wii-mote was an excellent choice, likewise I think Sony PS3's motion controller effort seems cool and Microsoft's Milo's recognition system was interesting if it were real (but it's not, everyone could imagine this would be possible at some point, but Microsoft is still too far off to be hyping this for their console). Realistic steering will always be best done with a steering wheel, but it takes a lot of room, also having a sword, longbow, tennis racket, etc, etc (including stuff that can only be done virtually) in your living room.

lol, like how far off, 4 years?  Kind of how sony unveiled killzone 2 in 2005, but didn't release it till 2009?   

Why would it ever be too early to show something you are working on anyway?  It gets people excited about what the future possibilities are.