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I am 18 years old, and have been going to a christian school my whole life, but the whole christian concept never fulfilled my curiousity of the many questions i had such as the diversity of life, why did God create sin, etc. One day, my biology class decided to go into the subject of evolution(which of coarse they criticized it). I had a feeling that they weren't telling the whole picture of evolutio due to being a Christian school. I decided to read the origin of species in order to get a full interpretation of evolution. I learned that natural selection was indeed true, and if natural selection is true, why couldn't species change over a long period of time. After that, my parents soon learned that i had started to believe in the concepts of evolution and told me that doing that will only get me to hell. I then declared myself as a theistic evolutionist in order to satisfy both my beliefs and not to get my parents livid, but i was still curious. I began expanding my mind to new ideas and new concepts.

Later that Biology teacher made a project asking one side of the class to show Christian's views on life(i was in this side) and the other on atheist's views on life. Being Christian's, they nailed down atheism saying that they have no morals, no rights of any kind. I began debating with him saying that if natural selection is true, wouldn't those that shared and worked together have a better chance of survival than the selfish. He began getting angry with me and told me that this is not the time for that kind of talk(which ironically it was).

One big turn around for me was when my Bible teacher taught me that homosexuality is an abomination, and began to belittle them. I began debating with him by replying

Me- Why are you belittling the gay community so much? They are people just like us
Bible Teacher- NO! they are corrupted and are like murders and adulterers!
Me- But if you are a Christians, you should love them any way. Besides Moses was a murderer and David was an adulterer.
Bible Teacher- That maybe true, but they are still in sin and are a disgrace!
Me- If you didn't know they were gay, you would be treating them with respect. They act just like us except for their sexuality, it shouldn't be such a big deal.
Bible Teacher- That's a dehall for you!
Me- What did i do wrong?
Bible Teacher- You were promoting homosexuality which is against God's Law!

Realizing that all Christians do is exclude others and anyone who isn't like them is damned. I didn't want to be with such arogant and hypocritical people and renounced Christianity.

I then began talking to gays around me with much more respect and now believe that "fag" and "queer" are insulting. I still have a habit of saying "that's so gay", but i am trying to do better.

After that i made this post, and am seeing all the nice people here who are gay and are just like me.

I am not completely stating that there is no god, i am just saying that i do not think the god is Jesus...sorry...



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Your biology teacher is pitting Christianity against evolution in the classroom?

Your bible teacher is likening homosexuals to murderers?

...you need some intelligent teachers.



Good post!

Im athiestic myself. I don't believe in the existance of any all powerful god, but I don't push my own personal beliefs on anyone else however I have and I will defend peoples right to exist and be themselves.



Tease.

Thanks for sharing this story. I have picked out a few that I have encountered many times (and still do)...


" I learned that natural selection was indeed true, and if natural selection is true, why couldn't species change over a long period of time. After that, my parents soon learned that i had started to believe in the concepts of evolution and told me that doing that will only get me to hell."

" Being Christian's, they nailed down atheism saying that they have no morals, no rights of any kind."

"One big turn around for me was when my Bible teacher taught me that homosexuality is an abomination, and began to belittle them. I began debating with him by replying"

It's why I never enjoyed church as a kid and why I often try to get out of christenings and stuff nowdays. I myself am an atheist, but everyone here knows that and why that is already lol



highwaystar101 said:
Thanks for sharing this story. I have picked out a few that I have encountered many times (and still do)...


" I learned that natural selection was indeed true, and if natural selection is true, why couldn't species change over a long period of time. After that, my parents soon learned that i had started to believe in the concepts of evolution and told me that doing that will only get me to hell."

" Being Christian's, they nailed down atheism saying that they have no morals, no rights of any kind."

"One big turn around for me was when my Bible teacher taught me that homosexuality is an abomination, and began to belittle them. I began debating with him by replying"




If you are born in a Christian family, then that first one is the toughest one for me. I haven't told my parents that i am atheist, but i have implied my beliefs to them, and plenty of them are not compromisable to Christians. I do not know when the best time to them is yet, but i am willing to tell them if the time is right.



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RockSmith372 said:
highwaystar101 said:
Thanks for sharing this story. I have picked out a few that I have encountered many times (and still do)...


" I learned that natural selection was indeed true, and if natural selection is true, why couldn't species change over a long period of time. After that, my parents soon learned that i had started to believe in the concepts of evolution and told me that doing that will only get me to hell."

" Being Christian's, they nailed down atheism saying that they have no morals, no rights of any kind."

"One big turn around for me was when my Bible teacher taught me that homosexuality is an abomination, and began to belittle them. I began debating with him by replying"




If you are born in a Christian family, then that first one is the toughest one for me. I haven't told my parents that i am atheist, but i have implied my beliefs to them, and plenty of them are not compromisable to Christians. I do not know when the best time to them is yet, but i am willing to tell them if the time is right.

My parents are not Christians to be honest, they believe in a god but I wouldn't call them that. My Grandad is a christian as are many of my cousins and aunts/uncles. But it's all cool, they know I'm an atheist, I don't care about being an atheist around them, I've always just believed what seems most logical to me and they accept that.



What denomination may I ask?



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highwaystar101 said:
RockSmith372 said:
highwaystar101 said:
Thanks for sharing this story. I have picked out a few that I have encountered many times (and still do)...


" I learned that natural selection was indeed true, and if natural selection is true, why couldn't species change over a long period of time. After that, my parents soon learned that i had started to believe in the concepts of evolution and told me that doing that will only get me to hell."

" Being Christian's, they nailed down atheism saying that they have no morals, no rights of any kind."

"One big turn around for me was when my Bible teacher taught me that homosexuality is an abomination, and began to belittle them. I began debating with him by replying"




If you are born in a Christian family, then that first one is the toughest one for me. I haven't told my parents that i am atheist, but i have implied my beliefs to them, and plenty of them are not compromisable to Christians. I do not know when the best time to them is yet, but i am willing to tell them if the time is right.

My parents are not Christians to be honest, they believe in a god but I wouldn't call them that. My Grandad is a christian as are many of my cousins and aunts/uncles. But it's all cool, they know I'm an atheist, I don't care about being an atheist around them, I've always just believed what seems most logical to me and they accept that.

sorry for the false accusation, but i'm glad you understand what i'm going through. any advice for me would be great!



RockSmith372 said:
highwaystar101 said:
RockSmith372 said:
highwaystar101 said:
Thanks for sharing this story. I have picked out a few that I have encountered many times (and still do)...


" I learned that natural selection was indeed true, and if natural selection is true, why couldn't species change over a long period of time. After that, my parents soon learned that i had started to believe in the concepts of evolution and told me that doing that will only get me to hell."

" Being Christian's, they nailed down atheism saying that they have no morals, no rights of any kind."

"One big turn around for me was when my Bible teacher taught me that homosexuality is an abomination, and began to belittle them. I began debating with him by replying"




If you are born in a Christian family, then that first one is the toughest one for me. I haven't told my parents that i am atheist, but i have implied my beliefs to them, and plenty of them are not compromisable to Christians. I do not know when the best time to them is yet, but i am willing to tell them if the time is right.

My parents are not Christians to be honest, they believe in a god but I wouldn't call them that. My Grandad is a christian as are many of my cousins and aunts/uncles. But it's all cool, they know I'm an atheist, I don't care about being an atheist around them, I've always just believed what seems most logical to me and they accept that.

sorry for the false accusation, but i'm glad you understand what i'm going through. any advice for me would be great!

what false accusation?

I don't think I have ever formally told them, but they all know about it and always have done. I think since I was a kid and asked questions about the legitimacy of the stories in the bible. That was the point they knew lol. Atheism in me has always been a part of me from day one I think.

In your situation I don't know what to suggest i'm afraid.



Hey, when someone tells you homosexuality is an abomination, tell them god sees it as no worse than eating shellfish, they're both called an abomination in the bible...

"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination." (Leviticus 18:22)

"But all in the seas or in the rivers that do not have fins and scales, all that move in the water or any living thing which is in the water, they are an abomination to you." (Leviticus 11:10)

"They (shellfish) shall be an abomination to you; you shall not eat their flesh, but you shall regard their carcasses as an abomination." (Leviticus 11:11)

Hehehehe. Also, four legged insects are called an abomination... "
All flying insects that creep on all fours shall be an abomination to you." (Leviticus 11:20)
Four legged insects, I'd like to see some of those.