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Paperdiego on 07 June 2009
MontanaHatchet said:
atma998 said:
MontanaHatchet said:
The hardware numbers are fine, but the PSP software numbers are already awful. They're not tracked well at all.

PSP software numbers are as awfully tracked as DS software numbers. Beside, in proportion, they are fine. DS is 419 million and PSP is 113 million software sold. If you look at the size of the space shelves in different stores, you will notice that DS space is usually 4 times bigger than PSP shelve space. That makes sense. 

No, the PSP wins that battle by a country mile. Are you really going to argue proportions by means of shelf space? What, did you take a ruler and personally measure shelf space in various stores? The PSP's software is horribly, horribly tracked. I'm pretty sure the staff have even gone on record saying the data for it is largely incomplete. Say what you will about the DS's software numbers, but they're at least tracked decently. The PSP software is tracked awfully. Take, for example, the latest Others chart. Are you really going to say that out of 18.6 million PSP owners, that only about 30k of them bought a game that week, and the top selling game only sold 2,400 copies? And besides, who asked about the DS anyways? This is about the PSP, and you're wrong anyways.

i took a ruler and i can confirm..what now?

 



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Zlejedi on 07 June 2009
Paperdiego said:
MontanaHatchet said:
atma998 said:
MontanaHatchet said:
The hardware numbers are fine, but the PSP software numbers are already awful. They're not tracked well at all.

PSP software numbers are as awfully tracked as DS software numbers. Beside, in proportion, they are fine. DS is 419 million and PSP is 113 million software sold. If you look at the size of the space shelves in different stores, you will notice that DS space is usually 4 times bigger than PSP shelve space. That makes sense. 

No, the PSP wins that battle by a country mile. Are you really going to argue proportions by means of shelf space? What, did you take a ruler and personally measure shelf space in various stores? The PSP's software is horribly, horribly tracked. I'm pretty sure the staff have even gone on record saying the data for it is largely incomplete. Say what you will about the DS's software numbers, but they're at least tracked decently. The PSP software is tracked awfully. Take, for example, the latest Others chart. Are you really going to say that out of 18.6 million PSP owners, that only about 30k of them bought a game that week, and the top selling game only sold 2,400 copies? And besides, who asked about the DS anyways? This is about the PSP, and you're wrong anyways.

i took a ruler and i can confirm..what now?

 

So how many shops have you visited in eastern europe and continental asia ?



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atma998 on 07 June 2009
MontanaHatchet said:
atma998 said:
MontanaHatchet said:
The hardware numbers are fine, but the PSP software numbers are already awful. They're not tracked well at all.

PSP software numbers are as awfully tracked as DS software numbers. Beside, in proportion, they are fine. DS is 419 million and PSP is 113 million software sold. If you look at the size of the space shelves in different stores, you will notice that DS space is usually 4 times bigger than PSP shelve space. That makes sense. 

No, the PSP wins that battle by a country mile. Are you really going to argue proportions by means of shelf space? What, did you take a ruler and personally measure shelf space in various stores? The PSP's software is horribly, horribly tracked. I'm pretty sure the staff have even gone on record saying the data for it is largely incomplete. Say what you will about the DS's software numbers, but they're at least tracked decently. The PSP software is tracked awfully. Take, for example, the latest Others chart. Are you really going to say that out of 18.6 million PSP owners, that only about 30k of them bought a game that week, and the top selling game only sold 2,400 copies? And besides, who asked about the DS anyways? This is about the PSP, and you're wrong anyways.

Montana, Montana, Montana... LOL

Didnt'you have your lesson last time we have an argument and all that you have said was unanimously considered as fail?

First of all shelf space is a very good sign of sales level. It was true last gen with the PS2 shelf space vs. GC and XBOX and it's still true with current gen consoles. Take a look in stores like Wal-Mart, EB Games, Best Buy, Costco, GameStop, what all these stores have in common? They all have a Wii Section 2 times bigger than PS3 section and at least 1.5 times bigger than X360 too. Now take a look at the sales : Wii = 50M, X360 = 30M and PS3 = 22M. Unless you think it's just chance or fortune you have to admit that shelf space is strongly linked to sales.

Now DS section is 3-4 times bigger than PSP section in all the major selling point they are. So it's OK to assume DS software is 3-4 times higher than PSP software.



DarkNight_DS on 08 June 2009
Million said:
DarkNight_DS said:
I wonder what stores are going to carry the PSP go? if I was a retailer... I'd probably drop the PSP altogether as there is no hook to get the players back into the store to buy more product. I would instead focus on the other consoles that allow me to make profits off the games.

But retailers will make no profit from software sales off the new PSP Go , all the transactions will be made through PSN effectivley cutting the retailer out of the loop. I imagine the retailers would want to support the original PSP more.

I'm not sure if you read my post correctly or what.  It turns out I agree with you 100%.  I just don't see the retailers wanting to carry PSP's at all when Sony is planning to cut them out of the pie.  If I were a retailer I'd be ditching the PSP as soon as possible. 



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Zlejedi on 08 June 2009
atma998 said:
MontanaHatchet said:
atma998 said:
MontanaHatchet said:
The hardware numbers are fine, but the PSP software numbers are already awful. They're not tracked well at all.

PSP software numbers are as awfully tracked as DS software numbers. Beside, in proportion, they are fine. DS is 419 million and PSP is 113 million software sold. If you look at the size of the space shelves in different stores, you will notice that DS space is usually 4 times bigger than PSP shelve space. That makes sense. 

No, the PSP wins that battle by a country mile. Are you really going to argue proportions by means of shelf space? What, did you take a ruler and personally measure shelf space in various stores? The PSP's software is horribly, horribly tracked. I'm pretty sure the staff have even gone on record saying the data for it is largely incomplete. Say what you will about the DS's software numbers, but they're at least tracked decently. The PSP software is tracked awfully. Take, for example, the latest Others chart. Are you really going to say that out of 18.6 million PSP owners, that only about 30k of them bought a game that week, and the top selling game only sold 2,400 copies? And besides, who asked about the DS anyways? This is about the PSP, and you're wrong anyways.

Montana, Montana, Montana... LOL

Didnt'you have your lesson last time we have an argument and all that you have said was unanimously considered as fail?

First of all shelf space is a very good sign of sales level. It was true last gen with the PS2 shelf space vs. GC and XBOX and it's still true with current gen consoles. Take a look in stores like Wal-Mart, EB Games, Best Buy, Costco, GameStop, what all these stores have in common? They all have a Wii Section 2 times bigger than PS3 section and at least 1.5 times bigger than X360 too. Now take a look at the sales : Wii = 50M, X360 = 30M and PS3 = 22M. Unless you think it's just chance or fortune you have to admit that shelf space is strongly linked to sales.

Now DS section is 3-4 times bigger than PSP section in all the major selling point they are. So it's OK to assume DS software is 3-4 times higher than PSP software.

Hmm wait so you just used American shops as example and then compared them to Worldwide results and obtained "proof" for your theory :)



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KillerMan on 08 June 2009
atma998 said:
MontanaHatchet said:
atma998 said:
MontanaHatchet said:
The hardware numbers are fine, but the PSP software numbers are already awful. They're not tracked well at all.

PSP software numbers are as awfully tracked as DS software numbers. Beside, in proportion, they are fine. DS is 419 million and PSP is 113 million software sold. If you look at the size of the space shelves in different stores, you will notice that DS space is usually 4 times bigger than PSP shelve space. That makes sense. 

No, the PSP wins that battle by a country mile. Are you really going to argue proportions by means of shelf space? What, did you take a ruler and personally measure shelf space in various stores? The PSP's software is horribly, horribly tracked. I'm pretty sure the staff have even gone on record saying the data for it is largely incomplete. Say what you will about the DS's software numbers, but they're at least tracked decently. The PSP software is tracked awfully. Take, for example, the latest Others chart. Are you really going to say that out of 18.6 million PSP owners, that only about 30k of them bought a game that week, and the top selling game only sold 2,400 copies? And besides, who asked about the DS anyways? This is about the PSP, and you're wrong anyways.

Montana, Montana, Montana... LOL

Didnt'you have your lesson last time we have an argument and all that you have said was unanimously considered as fail?

First of all shelf space is a very good sign of sales level. It was true last gen with the PS2 shelf space vs. GC and XBOX and it's still true with current gen consoles. Take a look in stores like Wal-Mart, EB Games, Best Buy, Costco, GameStop, what all these stores have in common? They all have a Wii Section 2 times bigger than PS3 section and at least 1.5 times bigger than X360 too. Now take a look at the sales : Wii = 50M, X360 = 30M and PS3 = 22M. Unless you think it's just chance or fortune you have to admit that shelf space is strongly linked to sales.

Now DS section is 3-4 times bigger than PSP section in all the major selling point they are. So it's OK to assume DS software is 3-4 times higher than PSP software.

PSP is horribly tracked in Europe. Really, when 28k pieces of software are sold for userbase of 18.6milj. for one week then tracking is horrible. DS software is tracked a lot better in Europe.



MonstaMack on 08 June 2009

I actually believe the main reason the PSP go is $250 is because theres like a 20% cut or something really high for the retailer to benefit from. I'll confirm that once they come out and I can see the markup.

As for PSP download tracking? We are going to have to accept Sony's numbers and add it to the current numbers we list. Also I believe PSP games sell like crap just looking at shelf space, especially where I work we are lucky to sell a PSP game a day. We usually sell about four or so PSP games a week outside of new releases, and we all know how many PSP new releases make it to the big stores (We never received Crimson Gem Saga, and we didn't carry the Patapon 2 voucher.)



It's just that simple.

bdbdbd on 08 June 2009

The most propable reason for bad PSP games tracking is bad game sales.



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coolestguyever on 08 June 2009

Only if Gameboy sales became useless when Gameboy Color came out, or if Game Boy Advance sales became useless when GBA SP game out.

Almost every handheld has had major re-designs so it really doesn't matter.