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Forums - Nintendo - How will Wii counter Natal, 360+, MS Moneyhatting Ways and Press Bias?

I agree with most. I see NATAL as complete bs and even if it is released it will have no affect at all on sales. People are already made up on their minds. It isn't like a bunch of casuals or regular gamers are going to flock to Microsoft when it is released. If I suspect anything it will be the Wii increasing it's sales lead over Microsoft.



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natal is marketing for prenatal development.



If there's anyone gonna have problem with Natal, it's Sony not Nintendo imo.

Natal look more like making to beat Eye toy more than Wii remote.



misterd said:
Not much. It's too little, too late for Natal and the PiiMote. They are both a minimum of a year away from release, likely longer, and we have no idea if they will deliver as promised, or how long it will take for a killer app to arrive. By the time the competition can get up to speed, if it can at all, Nintendo will be ready with their next console, which will surely take the WiiMote+ to the next level.

Nice name! Better than dildo, at least.

Dear Sony, this is what happens when you don't name your hardware.



"The worst part about these reviews is they are [subjective]--and their scores often depend on how drunk you got the media at a Street Fighter event."  — Mona Hamilton, Capcom Senior VP of Marketing
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I love how Sony and MS are a few years behind Nintendo on the new control bandwagon, and going in the wrong direction at that. While they obsess over "motion controls", Nintendo sticks to its guns and focuses on "new gameplay experiences". In a way, I'm starting to think that MotionPlus is just a decoy to keep MS and Sony from spotting that the real terrors are in fact the ones that get scorned at first glance and loved at first use. The Balance Board did it in 2007 and 2008, and if Nintendo doesn't screw it up, the Vitality sensor may well do the same in 2009 and 2010...



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@Sky Render, is your sig. confusious?



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

scottie said:
Oh noes! Wii is doomed.

At the moment, Natal is a peripheral that can only control a very limited variety of games, is extremely inaccurate and has a total of 0 games for it.

None of those problems are insurmountable. But it will be very hard for MS to convince devs to make games for the peripheral until a lot of consumers buy it, and hard for MS to convince consumers to buy it unless it has a lot of games.

Now assuming MS irons out the bugs with Natal, and produces a game of equal quality and mass market appeal as Wii Sports, Fit (or presumably WSR) which have been used to convince consumers to buy the Wii, Balance board (and WM+)

Nintendo will continue to produce the best games in their companies history, they have the release of WM+ very soon in Japan, as well as new colours coming out and the Monster Hunter bundle. They are also starting to get a lot of good 3rd party support. If MS starts to gain marketshare then Nintendo could drop the price. The Wii was making a profit at its current price 2.5 years ago.

As for the press thing you mentioned. You are very much mistaken
Yahoo praised the natal. This is neither surprising, nor important. Yahoo realised that their sites have a readership of about 3 people a year, and are trying to suck up to MS so that they can get bought out and the CEOs will retire

CNN praised Natal, but CNN always praised MS whatever so that is no change from before and thus not a concern

Most gaming sites I have seen that don't include the words microsoft or xbox in the url are cautiously optimistic about nNatal


GamePro and IGN have also said Microsoft won E3, and it can't be because of the games they showed.



megaman79 said:
@Sky Render, is your sig. confusious?

No.  I just decided to put something I'd observed about disruptive business practices in general into banner form.  And since this is a gaming site, I chose a few products that were acting as disruptive catalysts as the example for the images.  I could just as easily have put a microwave oven and a Model T in the image, and probably would have if I were using it on a non-gaming site.



Sky Render - Sanity is for the weak.

txrattlesnake said:
I saw at IGN that Rare is working on a Natal game. If Microsoft just throws the old controller to the side or makes it secondary in most games and implements natal as the primary control scheme of the 360+ and it is the main control mechanism of Gears 3, for example, then people will just have to go along with it.

And, most of the press seems to be giving Natal a very warm reception. Usually when things like this are announced the press either gives it a lukewarm reception and it doesn't go so far, but with most of the press saying it was awesome and that Microsoft won E3 because of it, it is already generating hype.

1.  Rare is not what they used to be.  We really need to stop looking at them in the same light as the 90's.

 

2. Count me as one of those in the media not giving a warm welcome.  I saw a vergy laggy, scripted interation with limited actual game implementation.



The rEVOLution is not being televised

What will they need to do you ask? Heard about WM+? That alone will crush any hopes Microsoft might have, and then comes the black Wii...