Lol. But if I own a 92 4D Civic in real life I would be so interested in driving it in game.

GT doesn't have any Passats and I could only drive the Golfs/GTI as replacement.

I like their variety of cars. Not just the performance ones. I could experience from the slow ass Honda Fit to the beast Ford GT.

Ok, you clearly missed my point and I am too lazy to explain it to you. Re read my post and hopefully it will make sense to you. If it does not, just assume that I'm trolling because I hate this game for some reason. I don't really care.

maybe it was in GT3 i don't remember though i know that i played on ps2 Gran Turismo game were was like 55-60 skylines. there are different versions and years but when they are putting every nissan from every year eventhough some cars didn't change at all something is not right. besides will you actually unlock all those 800 cars? not really, so why not give me less cars cause there's definitely at least 100-150 shitty ones nobody will want to drive. even 300 but different and good cars will give me months if not years of fun and i won't have to drive 50 races with Mini Cooper to unlock GT40 - quality over quantity. yes there are many same cars in Forza, but i get only 3-4 of them and those are the best versions released over years that are sigificanlty different from each other(i don't want every skyline released between 1990-2000 pick the best one of them or the most famous cause i wouldn't tell the difference between any of those versions thanks to the fact that they're pretty much the same).

modification in Gran Turismo so far wasn't as huge as in Forza. i didn't play much in GT4, though in GT3 there wasn't much compared to what you can see on xbox. and visual modification is nowhere near Forza i doubt there is any console/pc game with so many visual tunning options.

hmm interesting you know so much about GT5 scottie, how many cars and tracks will be in the game? *rolleyes*

Sarcasm aside  the game has been in production for a long time, if that game is lacking features then so is every racing sim released. Amar has made is clear that the game has been ready for some time now so Sony probably holding it back for a price cut during the end of the year.

Will I personally unlock all 800? That is completely irrelevant. They do not add various years of a certain model so every single person can unlock all of them, they include them because as I said, someone may want the 95 model, another may prefer the 2000 model, another may prefer the 98 model, etc... This goes for every car added into the game. If you do not prefer a 2001 Galant but I do maybe you won't care, but I sure as hell will. Multiply this by the 10M on average who purchase Gran Turismo.

The game has a massive amount of variety because of it. That is a good thing. Trying to pass it off as a negative is just about the dumbest thing I have ever heard and doesn't prove anything because you are just going off of your own personal preference, which outside of you I doubt anyone cares about.

Modification wasn't as big in GT4 as it is in Forza 2? When it comes to fine tuning of your cars internal components I think you need to recheck, because in my first response to you I showed you what GT4 included and to think GT5 will not expand on that greatly is foolish once again.

Also about visual tuning. You obviously do not understand Gran Turismo. That is one of the last reasons why people prefer it over other racing sims on the market. I remember playing Tokyo Xtreme Racing and thinking how awesome it was to mod my car, but that didn't make it any better than GT.

For all we know GT5 might have that too. If so, then what will you say? You clearly stated my post failed, but you have yet to even prove why.

Man up on this one.

*Edit* Wait a moment, why are you comparing these racers to GT3 when GT4 was the last full installment? That only makes your argument look weaker.

You're running out of straws.

Off the top of my head, 800 cars, 35 tracks

And as for the lacking in features. Gosh, I must've been trolling the game. It's not as if I meant a game that isn't finished is lacking in features compared to the same game after 6-12 months more development time. As the cool kids say, *rolleyes*

i play racing games to drive cars i wouldn't get in real life so i don't care bout cars like Golf, Volvos, Minis and so on i want to get behind muscle cars, exotics, european sports and and japanese tuning vehicles i don't care if it's 99' Skyline r34 or 99' Skyline Rsomething else. i want many different cars to try them, i want them to handle as close to reality as possible and i want to tune them as i like.

Waron you can't get a muscle car in real life (Camero) You can't get a japanese tuning car in real life (3000gt)? I feel bad for you.

So in other words you're argument for why my post failed is : "Your post fails because my personal preference means more than your facts."?

Well, at least that is pretty much you admitting that I am indeed the correct one here.

Personal preference makes people blind. Not looking at the wider picture is actually a weakness when it comes to debating.

@JEDE3

95' GT3000 VR4 Turbo (manual transmission) is my dream car.

I almost bought it before I grabbed a 2001 Galant 4 years ago.

Euphoria is getting a lil angry today!