forza 3 didnt take 5 years to make and look the game looks just as nice and offers more gaming fun. i think gt5 should have been out at this e3 and rack up sales before forza 3 launches in october.

Oh I know. People are crazy if they think that any major development on KZ2 happened before 2007.

Show me a Forza title with 800+ cars, Nascar automobiles, Nascar tracks, WSR, various other real life tracks, etc. all while being the most respected amongst car enthusiasts and motor companies around the world and then we can talk about how long something should take.

All I see is half the content in half the time. GT5 is just fine.

*note* Not saying Forza 3 will be a bad game, reviewers and such prove it is a quality title but it wouldn't matter if GT5 launched before, during or after Forza, it will sell better. It is the most respected for a reason. Car makers ask for their cars to be added in for a reason. Magazines, websites, etc... advertise it and praise it for a reason. PD is considered perfectionists in the racing sim genre for a reason.

Just for emphasis.

It takes much less time to make 400 cars to look great than it does to make 800 cars look great.

Do not forget, the original Gran Turismo took 5 years to complete as well. These games take time, but in the end they are worth every minute you waited.

To people thinking double the content and pretty much a Nascar, WSR, GT game all in one should release in the same time frame as a game without the Nascar, without the WSR and half the cars and without without the real life tracks is absolutely insane.

Sorry to say this, but it doesn't work that way.

From what I heard they do not pay to include these cars, so even when it comes to damage they need to make it as perfect as possible as well. Turn 10 making Forza and PD making GT are completely different situations, please understand this.

@ Euphoria14

I totally agree with both your comments! Spoken like a true gamer

if it will sell better regardless when than why not put it out right now, its gonna "sell better" anyway right, lol.

LOL Kungfu do you not think it will sell better?

Because they won't is why GT sells as well as it does. Polyphony perfects their product, so that everyone gobbles it up.

If they acted like every other racing developer, they wouldn't be in the position they're in.

Simple. The answer is reputation.

PD can not afford to just dump a game out on the market without it being as perfect as they can possibly make it. These games are not only about the sales but more about keeping things in line with not only what PD and Sony wants but what the auto manufacturers want. You do understand that there is a very good reason why the auto manufacturers ask for their cars to be included instead of PD having to dish out cash right?

A good example is the damage in previous GT games. You think they didn't have damage because they didn't want it? No, it is because high end companies like Ferrari, Lamborghini, etc... would not allow it. When you let a developer use your cars free or charge you have a lot of say in what can and can not be done in the game.

You need a bit to learn before you say what PD should or shouldn't do. You obviously do not understand what Gran Turismo is exactly.

Oh my.

I am not even a Gran Turismo fan, nor have I ever owned a title myself (my brother is the GT freak) but oh boy I even surprise myself with what I know, lol.

@Cleaner475

Thanks.