Showertea said:
I don't think you understand Disruption.
Disruptive games are like Wii Sports. Wii Sports will never be highly rated, because all the game reviewers are 'hardcore'.Hardcore doesnt mean gamers who only play mature games. No, but damned if there aren't a lot of them that think a game does have to be rated M to be good. Look at the people who started bashing Conduit because it got a T rating. ... And instead of Baseball, make it God of War.AGAIN, you DONT know what harcore gamers means For that matter, nor do you. There are so many subsets of gamers that it can't be described without getting into a mini discertation. And given where this thread is, I'd rather not do that, since it would fall on mostly deaf ears. (Or would that be blind eyes in this case?)
...Gran Turismo has better, more realistic graphics, but you play it using a joystick, which is completely unnatural and unrealistic.And it still sold about 50 million copies (entire franchise ) Which took it 7 games to do. Here's a tip for you: if you're going to make an argument, make sure it can't be shot down as easily as the other series selling more (~62 million) with a smaller number (6) of games.
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I honestly don't think Gran Turismo 5 or Forza 3 are going to sell well. They don't have motion control.Hmmm...GTAIV and COD4 sold above 10 million (2 consoles combiend) and they DONT have motion controll.Weird I guess this proves you didn't even read the entire post, rather, you only responded to what you think you could. If you were paying attention, this post was talking about the current disruption to the racing category. Mario Kart Wii (and for that matter, MKDS) has outsold any single GT game, and as I mentioned prior, has more series sales. Neither GTA4 nor COD4's sales are relevant in terms of the RACING genre, which is the part you convienently ignored. Thus, the prediction of GT5 and Forza 3 having relatively poor sales. And if Sony and MS want to retake those genres, they're going to have to move to the expanded market,you mean casual makret (the market which is changeing very very fast) No, actually, 'expanded' is the correct word. Nintendo has created more people interested in racing games, thus expanding its market. They are branded as "casual" because of the reluctance of the old guard not willing to change their playstyle. They started playing because of the expansion techniques Nintendo used. Yes, if Sony or MS wants to take the crown back for, in this case, racing games, they will need to find some way to more even more compelling to this new market, or do something else drastic to get even more outsiders into gaming. Though at the same time, if they were to do that, I'm sure you'd not be so apt to call those new gamers casual, because they're on "your side." where their previous advantages (super awesome graphics) become liabilities (high price and large size 360 is cheper than Wii, lol). At retail, yes. But at wholesale? We don't have all the figures, just a lot of speculation, but the speculation seems to agree that the $200 X360 is sold at or just below cost. Meanwhile, Nintendo is making serious money on the Wii. At some point, I may crunch the numbers, but most would agree that Nintendo could sell the Wii for profit at $200. Thus making the Wii cheaper to produce, which is the advantage that this post was getting at. The higher cost to produce the X360, while still lower than the PS3, is still a liability for the system.
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