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Oh, thnx twingo, you reminded me.)) I wanted to make a thread about it, but maybe this will be enough. =)



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

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The N64 controller was bulky and ugly. Nintendo hates analog controls unless there is a chance you can throw your controller at the tv while trying to play. Take another look at the 64. The sticks are rather slotted and digital. Not much better then the Master Systems nubs( did anyone else actually try to use those?).



 Go Team Venture! I still don't get the Wii, PS Move,  and Kinect.

Yeah and EA Active, and Your Body copied from Wii Fit.
Microsoft copied the controller layout of Dreamcast.
Nintendo and Microsoft copied Sony having backwards compatibility on their consoles.

You know what, who cares. We need competition in everything, or else no company will strive to get better. For example, Madden when it was the only Football game in the market. Madden 10 though looks kind of innovative.



Battlefield Bad Company 2 > Modern Warfare 2

dammit... it's not coping it's getting to the same point via different means. The PS3 has wands that work with the eye toy 2... that's fine... the Wii uses a sensor bar and Microsoft uses 3D cam with voice recognition. They all go about it differently, but the purpose is the only thing that is being copied. The purpose is to open Video Games to a whole new audience.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
bbsin said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Smashed said:
And what the hell did Microsoft do?
Jesus.


Microsoft aquired the company who actually pefected motion sensing. Sonys eye toy was a joke and the only way to make it truly work was to copy the Wii's wand. I like it to tell you the truth, but that doesn't change the fact. Microsoft has the most unique motion sensor.

Did you misspell "perfected" on purpose because Microsoft's motion sensing is FAR from perfect, or because you really think this:  and  is "perfect" and you just happened to misspell it by mistake????

 

Project Natal has voice recognition technology as well as the ability to project foward-backward movements on screen, but at the end of the day, it's fuction is still based on capturing a specific object via camera and simulating the shape's actions on the screen... which is what the Eyetoy did first.... which is the same in regards to the Wiimote and the Sony motion stick..... which means they copied each other.

Further more, I'd like to add that everyone copies each other. That's how technology works, you look at a previous invention and attempt to improve upon it inorder to try and make it better than before.

You can talk about the NXE interface, and i'll say Natal perfected realism with the Milo interactive clip. That was freaking amazing.

...I think your use of the word "perfected" and "realism" is really over exaggerated. I already showed a flaw (whichmeans it's not perfect) with the akward movements of kudo's avatar when he was demonstrating the tech.

Also, the clip was basically a scripted AI telling YOU a set of options of what to do. I bet that there's alot of things this "milo" program would not recognize. If you're telling me that it's "perfected realism", then it must mean that you can do whatever you want in front of the camera (such as flick him off, tell him a nasty joke or threat him with violence) and he'd react realisticly, which we all know wouldn't happen. Believe me when I say this, If you think this is "perfect", you'll look quite silly when Microsoft, Nintendo, or Sony comes out with something even more advanced next time. That's how technology works.



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ocnkng said:
You should not copy everyone else by wearing clothes. Next time step out of your house completely in the buff.

Some people do that too, though... only way he could not copy people would be to make his own unique clothing or body paint designs!



Some time companies copy either by actually paying royalties other times by finding another way to do the same thing. Other times companies develop things that are similar yet one releases it first and any that release it after are called copiers.

Either way in this case the big thing will be if Sony will have games that use it and can get people to buy it. This isn't the six axis and won't be with every controller and getting people to buy new hardware to play one or two games doesn't usually work to well. While the Nintendo has bee able to get massive adoption of the balance board who knows how well any of these others will work out. I wouldn't buy any of this for just one game unless it was a very good game with huge replay value. I'm still not sure if I'll get wii motion +



bbsin said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
bbsin said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Smashed said:
And what the hell did Microsoft do?
Jesus.


Microsoft aquired the company who actually pefected motion sensing. Sonys eye toy was a joke and the only way to make it truly work was to copy the Wii's wand. I like it to tell you the truth, but that doesn't change the fact. Microsoft has the most unique motion sensor.

Did you misspell "perfected" on purpose because Microsoft's motion sensing is FAR from perfect, or because you really think this:  and  is "perfect" and you just happened to misspell it by mistake????

 

Project Natal has voice recognition technology as well as the ability to project foward-backward movements on screen, but at the end of the day, it's fuction is still based on capturing a specific object via camera and simulating the shape's actions on the screen... which is what the Eyetoy did first.... which is the same in regards to the Wiimote and the Sony motion stick..... which means they copied each other.

Further more, I'd like to add that everyone copies each other. That's how technology works, you look at a previous invention and attempt to improve upon it inorder to try and make it better than before.

You can talk about the NXE interface, and i'll say Natal perfected realism with the Milo interactive clip. That was freaking amazing.

...I think your use of the word "perfected" and "realism" is really over exaggerated. I already showed a flaw (whichmeans it's not perfect) with the akward movements of kudo's avatar when he was demonstrating the tech.

Also, the clip was basically a scripted AI telling YOU a set of options of what to do. I bet that there's alot of things this "milo" program would not recognize. If you're telling me that it's "perfected realism", then it must mean that you can do whatever you want in front of the camera (such as flick him off, tell him a nasty joke or threat him with violence) and he'd react realisticly, which we all know wouldn't happen. Believe me when I say this, If you think this is "perfect", you'll look quite silly when Microsoft, Nintendo, or Sony comes out with something even more advanced next time. That's how technology works.

Dude....I never thought I'd see virtual figures responding to humans like what I saw with the Milo game for another 10 years. This Molyneux did with Natal is a joke compared to what that man is fully capable of. If this is true, the future will bring amazing and diverse new titles.



OooSnap said:

Sony copies Nintendo with the cross button layout of the SNES controller. Then the analog and rumble of the N64 controller. Then belatedly adds motion controls to the Sixaxis after Nintendo announced motion controls. Now they are blatantly copying the Wii remote with their colored ice cream cone controller.

Sony has no shame, no dignity, no creativity.

Nintendo copied the eyetoy and just changed it to a controller.

 

No sham no dignity No creativity bla bla bla.

 

Then sony just perfected the technology.



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I can see Sonys motion controller getting a lot more support from 3rd parties as they showed you what you could do with it and it will appeal to hardcore gamers as well as the more casual - It just depends on the price



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