that's not motion control, it's having a pointer.  If all we're talking about is the motion control I can't see how Natal isn't better than the Wiimote on a technical standing.  And you don't even know the capabilities yet, could be possible to point your finger at the screen.  We'll just have to wait and see, but I find it hard to believe that it'll end up being more "gimped" then what is currently out there.

What does Natal mean? You think M$ had some kind of meaning to the name? They did kind of  talk smack about the Wii during their presentation. Could it mean?

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At $200, only those who care about FPS'swill ever buy NATAL if it comes out

Ah, but just motion controls alone, don't work well in most genres, the pointer ability is needed, and NATAL showed no evidence of having that.  As for motion, well even there, the version shown today was laggy, don't know if that is just because it is prototype or not, but there was a distinct time difference between the actions of the performers, and the on screen avatars.

Wouldn't calling the Natal gesture control be more accurate than calling it motion control? They are completely two different things.

Ohh, and I just remembered what the Sony thing could be. Didn't they patent some kind of robot?

I see it as more different than gimped. It has its flaws just like the Wii mote does, and its strengths as well. What I have trouble with, is how they are going to implement it in where it will have an effect that gamers and/or Microsoft want. The Wiimote supports all game demographics, and game types, while this is limited to the "gimmick" games that 360/PS3 fanboys(not the fans, but the ones that bash other consoles) have been complaining about on Wii. Maybe it won't be limited technologically, but how much support it gets by developers will definitely be limited. It would have been a much much better idea to introduce this in another console cycle. Especially when it would be much cheaper, and easier to implement.

Explain that logic please.

Also, please stop quoting $200.  Perhaps I could pull a number out of my ass as well and post it online.

Sony's mo-cap based capture like Microsoft. They are also working on mind-based games.

Listen...I am Nintendo all the way and I think the technology is very cool as long as everything pans out the way shown, but I couldn't help think the whole time they were presenting. That this is a rip off of Nintendo. First they came up with Avatars aka mii's and now gesture contoling aka wii mote and nunchunk. After all the years of poking and prodding Nintendo and saying they are not in competition with Nintendo blah blah blah. It's just humorous that they keep taking ideas from them. Much like vista stealing from apple. LOL, now all the 360 fans are suddenly in love with motion capture. In the end, very cool product, but I think it's a little too late. IMO

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