i think Natal is either a gimmick, a bound failure, or MS is just the first to reveal something like this. im sure nintendo and sony have something like this in the works.

actualy i wonder if anyone ever thinks more then what has happend? it just came to me. that demo stuff looked alot like something that nintendo had a huge hand in. it wouldnt suprise me that if the actual rollout of the full motion thing wont be for the next xbox and teh next wii. and instead of being a one console thing might be a joint venture to where microsoft and nintendo works together to make the ultimate console. cause the rumors of them working together i think has alot to do with this device.

You remember that Spielberg was behind the Wii too, right? He's the guy who made Boom Blox. People didn't treat it as a huge thing then.

Comparing Natal to Eyetoy? Are you guys listening to yourselves? MS has already way surpassed that in a matter of months. Go and see whether you can navigate your XMB with your Eyetoy. The tech demo for Milo is just the beginning of actual games where you are actually IN A LIVE 3D INTERACTIVE ENVIRONMENT! If this is all one major big gimmick trick then call me the biggest fool ever but I seriously believe I witnessed history and having that as a gadget in my home up and running will be amazing.

OK Ill stop now trying to convert anyone. Im just amazed after this amazing conference and MS actually pulled it off well.

The only bad points about the conference are no Rare, no MMOs, no JRPGs and the Facebook and Twitter stuff was awkward which I think wont take off much.

(I'm a PSWii owner)

@NJ5: It's less tiring because you don't have to hold a controller to point.  I only survived playing MP3 because I was in the recliner and could angle it with a little bit of creative positioning of the sensor bar.  A lot off Wii owners want to play standing up (I don't know why) or from the couch and there's no arm support.

A controller is heavier than no controller.  Plus if they can make it more immersive than you will notice the pain less.

@PMG: Control by pointing to walk in what direction and menues will more like the dashboard (but won't take up the whole screen).  Or casting spells with motion, or hacking with a prop or with out.

I'm sure it'll get more games than the EyeToy and the EyeToy was also $160 cheaper. The price has to be right, and I don't see this taking off with such little information about it.

Honestly, I'd like Sony to support the EyeToy, but I would be right here complaining away if this was their big announcement.

Eagles, until its useful outside minigames and talking to imaginary computer people, its not revolutionary, just an interesting technology

Seriously, I don't understand how you can be so against this project. Do you hate innovation or something?

When they first showed it with the guy (Kudo I believe his name was), I was a bit skeptical myself because the movement recognition seemed weak, but when that girl played that little tech demo, it was actually working! She was moving in a 3D environnement created in the tech demo with just a little camera. Sure, she seemed a bit excited and missed a few balls, but what do you expect?

And what facts? You saw lag in there? You saw framedrops? What the heck are you talking about?

you could tell that the movement on screen were slower than the movements of the person playing

Yea I'm trying to place what Spielberg has done for gaming. I'm not trying to downplay him or his movies, but as a game developer, it would have to be one hell of a game.