Nintendo saved home consoles.
I would have to say Nintendo doesn't get enough credit.
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When the Nes launched, the market was dead due to low quality control, and lack of innovation. Not only did Nintendo bring quality and innovation (R.O.B. the video Robot would do your homework), they continue to bring fresh ideas to the table each generation.
At the end of the 16-bit era, I told myself I'd never buy another console. I was 18, and it was time to grow up....then the 64 hit. I bought it on day one. Near the end of the last generation, I figured it was time to stop gaming. I have a kid, and responsibilities now. "Video games wern't going to look or play much better", I told myself. At that time, I wasn't too impressed with what the 360 was doing back in 2005 (I did buy one in January this year though- it's awesome!). Nintendo's Wii captured my imagination, and made me excited again. My point is this: Not only did Nintendo save gaming (imo), they continue to utilize technology like analog, mode 7, motion control, and touch screens so that people like me who feel that the industry is getting stale NEVER give up their favorite hobby. (I forgive them for the Gamecube's "by the numbers" approach.)
Nintendo saved the console gaming industry. Atari did so much damage to the industry Nintendo had to jump through hoops just to get US retailers to carry the NES. Yamauchi had to promise to buy back any unsold product. It seems to me that the only people debating this point weren't around to see how bad things were before the NES took off.
As for Sony, Sony deserves credit for building the European market. Before the Playstation console gaming was purely niche in Europe. In fact, if you compare the NES sales to the PS1 sales you will see that almost all of the 40+ million the PS1 has over the NES in overall sales came from the Euro market.

Everyone chill a bit.. ET clearly saved the industry
| fkusumot said: A lasting effect of Nintendo entering the USA video game market in 1985 is that Japanese companies dominate the USA video game console market. |
I think Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony are all moving hardwave. But Japanese companies do not dominate the software. The largest game publishers in America are Nintendo, EA, Activison, THQ, Take-Two Interactive, Sony, Microsoft, and Ubisoft (maybe some others). Most of these are not Japanese companies. Namco, Capcom, and Sega used to be huge in America but they are not what they used to be in the American market.
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| RolStoppable said: When I read the thread title I thought it was about Nintendo saving videogames today, not back then with the NES. Without the NES the videogames market wouldn't be as big as it is today, but there certainly would be videogames. Nintendo had to overcome a lot of hurdles to reestablish console gaming back then in the '80s in america. Many doubted that Nintendo could do it, but they did it. Now for my sort of off topic rant: What many people don't seem to realize is that Nintendo is saving console gaming again. Right now we are at a point where the majority of publishers post tiny profits or losses. The reasons are high development costs and slow adoption rates of the HD consoles. Now that wouldn't be so much a concern for us gamers, but the problem that appears is that many publishers don't dare to take a risk to make some new and innovative games, but instead make more clones of what has proved to sell. We are seeing a flood of FPS, action, sports games, games which are perceived as cool by the majority of current hardcore gamer market. Overall games become more and more the same and predictable. It gets boring and that's where the Wii comes in. It doesn't sell so fast because it's "cheap". It became the fastest selling console in history because it delivers what the majority of gamers really want: a refreshing change to the way how games are played and a broad spectrum of games. Without the Wii the videogames market would shrink big time. The HD consoles aren't the way to go for videogames. If it was, the market would grow and publishers would post profits, but the opposite is the case. Basically the Wii is bringing back videogames to what they were back then in the NES days. What I mean by that is that the idea for a game and its gameplay is more important than its looks. That's what videogames are about and that's why the NES was so successful and why the Wii will be successful. Without Nintendo videogames would still be here, but the market wouldn't be nearly as big. Nintendo saved and lifted up the industry in the NES days... and they are doing it all over again right now. |
You said it better than any one of us could. I could barelly afford a Wii at U$ 250. My life would suck if I had to spend more than U$ 400-600 on a console,U$ 60 on games and U$ 1000+ on a HDTV
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FreeTalkLive rocks! said:
I think Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony are all moving hardwave. But Japanese companies do not dominate the software. The largest game publishers in America are Nintendo, EA, Activison, THQ, Take-Two Interactive, Sony, Microsoft, and Ubisoft (maybe some others). Most of these are not Japanese companies. Namco, Capcom, and Sega used to be huge in America but they are not what they used to be in the American market. |
Were you rebutting my post or did you just want to say something about software?
| leo-j said: Sony should get the credit not nintendo, they freakin rejected them when they wanted to make the SNES a better system. Now because they made the NES everyone thinks they are best. Childs play really.. |
Uh, let's try this using facts instead of delusion:
Nintendo and Sony were partnered in trying to make a disc-based add-on to the Super Nintendo. Sony wanted royalties on the hardware as well as on the game discs themselves. This amounted to an obscene amount of money and Nintendo refused to continue the project. Sony took the ideas (as the hardware was being built by them) and turned it into the PlayStation. Nintendo then went to Philips and that fell apart, resulting in the CD-i (and the god-awful Zelda "games" that came out on it)
Nintendo saved video gaming. They did not make it what it is "today" (by which I mean 2006 -- they could arguably make it what it is today with the introduction of the Wii, but that's another discussion entirely). But they absolutely, without a shadow of a doubt, saved it.
PS3: 5.51m/51w, avg 108,039/w (up 239)
360: 12.93m/102w, avg 126,764/w (up 625), leads PS3 by 7.42m (up 70k), avg lead 18,725/w (up 386)
Wii: 13.52m/51w, avg 265,098/w (dn 1,102), leads PS3 by 8.01m (up 90k), avg lead 157,059/w (dn 1,341)
If 360 sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass 360 by...
01/08: (008w) +875.8%, 04/08: (021w) +344.4%, 07/08: (034w) +219.3%, 10/08: (047w) +163.5%
01/09: (060w) +131.8%, 04/09: (073w) +111.4%, 07/09: (085w) +098.1%, 10/09: (099w) +086.7%
If Wii sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass Wii by...
01/08: (008w) +1072.%, 04/08: (021w) +498.4%, 07/08: (034w) +363.4%, 10/08: (047w) +303.1%
01/09: (060w) +269.0%, 04/09: (073w) +246.9%, 07/09: (085w) +232.6%, 10/09: (099w) +220.3%
If PS2 sales freeze, Wii sales increases needed to pass PS2 (as of Mar07, 108.4m) by...
2008: (008w) +4373.8%, 2009: (060w) +0496.5%, 2010: (112w) +0219.6%, 2011: (165w) +0116.9%
2012: (217w) +0064.9%, 2013: (269w) +0033.1%, 2014: (321w) +0011.5%, 2015: (376w) -0004.8%
At +0% it will pass it in 358w, the week ending September 19th, 2014, at an age of 409w (7y44w).
Current age of PS2: 7y37w.
Last update: Week ending November 3, 2007
jhlennon1 said:
Oh yes, that is why the 360 software sales are kicking the crap out of the Wii's in the US and have been all year.... Nobody would be gaming.... try another one. |
So you stated the obvious: Second year games selling more thatn first year games 
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