Gotta love the hypocracy.

Because they're not in the proper economic and circumstances (only 2 guardians) to... oh wait...

Right, because this man was forcing women to abort their babies by gunpoint.

Most people aren't smart.

Never trust anyone who uses a correlation to support their theories on causation ...

Many people would argue that since most violent crimes are alcohol or drug related that the steady decline in the use of alcohol from the 1970s to today has more to do with the reduction in violent crime. Other people may argue that an increased awareness and a reduction in domestic violence (as well as the elimination of corporal punishment in school) has had an impact on how the number of children who are raised in abusive households, and therefore reduced the violent tendencies in them as adults. And there are some people who would probably argue that other "more productive" outlets for violent behaviour for (young) adults, like sports and videogames, have greatly reduced the need for violent outbursts.

In other words, society has changed dramatically over the past 30 to 50 years and there has been a reduction in many of the things that are associated with violent crime; anyone who is trying to claim that the reduction in violent crime is directly the result of any one change (in particular something which was probably fairly minor like an increase in abortion) has an agenda.

@ HappySqurriel

I think the logic holds that unwanted children grow up in poor environments. Either they suffer from neglect, or are the wards of the state. Which typically results in a instability in their formative years. Which in turn creates a higher likelihood that they will engage in criminal behavior as adolescents and adults. I think we all knew children like that growing up. The ones that never got the attention or love they needed and deserved. I am not saying it accounts for all reduction, but it probably accounts for some.

@MrBubbles

You disgust me. A house of worship is sacrosanct. Murdering someone in cold blood is not justified. This was the work of a coward plain and simple. Defending the behavior is beyond justification even as a Devils advocate. This person had nonviolent recourse they chose to behave like a monster instead.

@Topic

What disturbs me the most about these shootings is not just the utter hypocrisy. What troubles me the most is that people that feel this way seemingly have only one idea. The best way to fight abortion isn't to treat the situation as an all or nothing prospect. Even if it were illegal you still would not stop the practice. Anymore then you stop murders, rapes, or narcotics. Where there is the will. There is a way, and people used that way before it was legal.

The best way to thwart abortion is to attack the root cause, and that never was a court decision. The root causes are ignorance, poverty, and psychology. All of which are addressed through good education, strong governmental economic intervention, and flexible social contracts. Which ironically are what most antiabortionists abhor. They often despise sexual education, because they think it is sinful. They are disgusted by social programs like Welfare. They are also so firmly entrenched in their beliefs they will not allow engaging in new social dynamics to bring about better conclusions.

The goal should not be to stop all abortions period. The thought that you can is ludicrous. The goal should be to minimize the need for them to happen in the first place. Had this person truly thought about any other coarse they might have put their energy to better use. Handing out condoms to prostitutes. Helping in social programs that support the poor. Serving as a role model to the youth in their community through mentoring.

Instead they were lazy and chose a bullet. All anyone can say about that is what a dumb fuck.

monsters are needed to deal with monsters when society refuses to. you and your hovels of sin and brainwashing are completely irrelevant.  i am a realist.  go stay in your delusions.

and hitmen arent guilty of anything because they werent holding a gun to the people that hired them...

Being that 13% of children were raised in single parent households in 1970 and that has grown to over 30% today, with a large portion of that growth being the result of more single women having unwanted children, wouldn't your argument mean that we should have seen an increase in violent crime?

An economist would say that if group A does something that group B doesn't like and in this case its abortion, if the cost for group A is higher than the cost for group B, I.E. putting a value on the negative feelings of group A compared to whatever value group B holds for keeping the child to term and adopting them out then group A should pay group B for the 'unwanted' children.