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Onyxmeth on 31 May 2009
dcIKeeL said:
Onyxmeth said:

I don't see what's so particularly diverse about that list of games. I mean we've got three racing games(two of which are from the same franchise), and a shit ton of games primarily about shooting enemies(inclusing two first person shooters). On top of that, the list of upcoming games that are supposed to continue the diversity are mostly made up of sequels of currently released PS3 games(Uncharted 2, Gran Turismo 5) and a game cut from the same cloth as Heavenly Sword(God of War III), so how does that make the console more diverse? I would think sequels would be the least likely titles to diversify a console lineup.

Frankly, if we're talking about diverse lineups, your answer is the Wii. Why even argue this?


I agree with mostly everything except the final statement. I honestly don't think a truly diverse console library exists in this gen as of now. The wii is very high on casual but very low on hardcore as of now. Many games on the ps3/360 libraries are completely absent on the Wii or of comparble low quality.

Again, I don't think any console has a truly diverse library.

I don't equate the words "casual" and "hardcore" the same way you do, so I won't judge the Wii's library in those eyes. Also, the quality of said games is far too subjective to be a legitimate talking point when we're discussing variety.

You and I are on two completely different thought patterns, so we'll probably never reach a middle ground. You continue to think your way and I'll continue mine.



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dahuman on 31 May 2009

hold on, is this about quality or diversity right now? because Wii does win easily on diversity, quality is kinda subjective since not all good games need awesome graphics, it's more about the game designers to create a world where you'd feel like you are truly immersed within( SMG is a good example of it.)



Bobbuffalo on 31 May 2009

when "casuals" spend their hard earned money in a PS3 to play ANY of those game, I'll believe you.

So far that's not happening so that makes you as delusional as crazyman.

PS3 is for "hardkorez" no matter how hard sony tries so wake up and smell the coffee.



Bobbuffalo on 31 May 2009

"I am a proud owner of a Ps3, Wii and Xbox 360, so I consider myself a neutral who know's a thing or two about gaming"

Neutral?! hahahahahahahahah! wow! just wow!



Bobbuffalo on 31 May 2009

And btw a Golden era is the one that is normally at the beginning and starts shaping the industry as we know it.

The Golden era of animation was on the 30s-40s

The Golder era of Hollywood was on the 40s-50s

The Golden era of Videogames was on the 70s-early 80s before the crash

And that label normally applies after some years later.

So STOP labeling each era you love a golden era because it doesn't make any sense.



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dcIKeeL on 31 May 2009
The Ghost of RubangB said:
dcIKeeL said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
dcIKeeL said:
spdk1 said:
just for the sake of correctness the "golden age" of gaming in considered to be the late 70's and early 80's right before the video game crash:

http://www.thocp.net/software/games/golden_age.htm

then the NES ushered in thr "modern age":

http://www.thocp.net/software/games/modern_age.htm

and now we are in an era, that hasn't been named yet:

http://www.thocp.net/software/games/next_generation.htm


Call this era, "the golden era that made the 'original golden era' irrelevant". Btw, can you explain to me how the late 70's and early 80's are the golden era??? I'm tired of golden = OLD as fuck, that era was simply near the beginning of the video game industry, idk how it's golden.....

Quality......waaaaaayyyy higher now.....popularity.....higher now, what else is there?

Because almost every game that came out in the golden age added a revolutionary new thing to gaming.  Today almost every game is a tired clone of something older.  Just browse through that golden age article.  It's insane.  You get things like Space Invaders in 1978, which actually invented the high score.  Now people call them "leaderboards" to try to stay fresh, but they're just using busted old high scores from 31 years ago.  But they won't fool me!

It's unfair to expect the same level of innovation in this era than in that era because there are now a million games or so, most likely more. How many games were there then??? The industry was so new anything would be something 'innovative'. Considering how many games and consoles have been released by the start of this era, I would say there is alot of innovation going on. Games are much grander now, storytelling is reaching epic proportions, motion controls, cameras, 3D gaming, online play, new genres the list goes on. Not to mention games now are nearing the same level of popularity as films. You can quite possibly play alongside your grandma now. Call it misguided, incorrect or w.e, but the era in which the particular industry was most popular is generally regarded as the 'golden era'. There is no argument there.

Exactly.  I think that's why it's the golden age.


Well that's a weird definition of hardcore but you can define anything however you like. At least how I define golden era, that era is now. By your definition it was then. Agreed to disagree?



ShadowSoldier on 31 May 2009

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dcIKeeL on 31 May 2009
Onyxmeth said:
dcIKeeL said:
Onyxmeth said:

I don't see what's so particularly diverse about that list of games. I mean we've got three racing games(two of which are from the same franchise), and a shit ton of games primarily about shooting enemies(inclusing two first person shooters). On top of that, the list of upcoming games that are supposed to continue the diversity are mostly made up of sequels of currently released PS3 games(Uncharted 2, Gran Turismo 5) and a game cut from the same cloth as Heavenly Sword(God of War III), so how does that make the console more diverse? I would think sequels would be the least likely titles to diversify a console lineup.

Frankly, if we're talking about diverse lineups, your answer is the Wii. Why even argue this?


I agree with mostly everything except the final statement. I honestly don't think a truly diverse console library exists in this gen as of now. The wii is very high on casual but very low on hardcore as of now. Many games on the ps3/360 libraries are completely absent on the Wii or of comparble low quality.

Again, I don't think any console has a truly diverse library.

I don't equate the words "casual" and "hardcore" the same way you do, so I won't judge the Wii's library in those eyes. Also, the quality of said games is far too subjective to be a legitimate talking point when we're discussing variety.

You and I are on two completely different thought patterns, so we'll probably never reach a middle ground. You continue to think your way and I'll continue mine.

Well, I have my quibbles with defining hardcore and casual as well. I usually assume the popular stance in these type of arguments just for the purpose of people understanding what I mean. Care to share your definition of casual and hardcore?



dahuman on 31 May 2009

this is not a personal attack, dclKeel, I don't disagree that there is no real term of hardcore or casual in gaming, but in the English language, they actually mean different things, by far, those are not even valid words to describe gamers since they were made up by teenage boys. The whole "golden era" thing doesn't apply to what you are describing as well, I think you should look for a better term than "golden era" tbh since the PS3 is not anywhere close to it no matter which angle you want to look at it from.



Onyxmeth on 31 May 2009
dcIKeeL said:
Onyxmeth said:
dcIKeeL said:
Onyxmeth said:

I don't see what's so particularly diverse about that list of games. I mean we've got three racing games(two of which are from the same franchise), and a shit ton of games primarily about shooting enemies(inclusing two first person shooters). On top of that, the list of upcoming games that are supposed to continue the diversity are mostly made up of sequels of currently released PS3 games(Uncharted 2, Gran Turismo 5) and a game cut from the same cloth as Heavenly Sword(God of War III), so how does that make the console more diverse? I would think sequels would be the least likely titles to diversify a console lineup.

Frankly, if we're talking about diverse lineups, your answer is the Wii. Why even argue this?


I agree with mostly everything except the final statement. I honestly don't think a truly diverse console library exists in this gen as of now. The wii is very high on casual but very low on hardcore as of now. Many games on the ps3/360 libraries are completely absent on the Wii or of comparble low quality.

Again, I don't think any console has a truly diverse library.

I don't equate the words "casual" and "hardcore" the same way you do, so I won't judge the Wii's library in those eyes. Also, the quality of said games is far too subjective to be a legitimate talking point when we're discussing variety.

You and I are on two completely different thought patterns, so we'll probably never reach a middle ground. You continue to think your way and I'll continue mine.

Well, I have my quibbles with defining hardcore and casual as well. I usually assume the popular stance in these type of arguments just for the purpose of people understanding what I mean. Care to share your definition of casual and hardcore?

I don't agree with the ideology of attaching names to a sector of games that are pidgeonholded into being either A or B. "Hardcore" and "casual" are two empty terms. They mean whatever someone wants them to mean to serve their current argument/discussion. You attaching them to the Wii's library in a way to draw a line down the middle is exactly what I don't agree with. The two words don't matter. You could have said apples and oranges and I still would have gotten the message. I just don't agree with sectioning games like that in the first place.



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