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BladeOfGod said:
It aint gonna happen. Wii is not PlayStation

It's going to happen, because Reggie was NOT dicsussing 70% in those terms.



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BladeOfGod said:
It aint gonna happen. Wii is not PlayStation

I really hope you don't actually beleive that!?



Smashchu2 said:
BladeOfGod said:
It aint gonna happen. Wii is not PlayStation

I really hope you don't actually beleive that!?


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The third party problem with Wii merely shows how creatively bankrupt the vast majority of this industry has been. They have a very hard time adjusting to change, but they are catching on.



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The big problem with third party Wii games I've seen is they can't seem to figure out how best to use motion control (some exceptions apply). Most often third parties grossly overuse motion control, shoving it into places it has no reason to be in. They seem scared to use the Wiimote+Nunchuck as a tradition controller, only using motion control as an additional button or two.

Nintendo does this very well. Most of their games (Galaxy, Twilight Princess) use motion control, but don't overuse it.



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BladeOfGod said:
Smashchu2 said:
BladeOfGod said:
It aint gonna happen. Wii is not PlayStation

I really hope you don't actually beleive that!?


I B_E_L_E_I_V_E

blade man, I can somewhat understand where you are coming from, but sales, data, and consumers don't lie, it's already happening and about to get there.



dahuman said:
BladeOfGod said:
Smashchu2 said:
BladeOfGod said:
It aint gonna happen. Wii is not PlayStation

I really hope you don't actually beleive that!?


I B_E_L_E_I_V_E

blade man, I can somewhat understand where you are coming from, but sales, data, and consumers don't lie, it's already happening and about to get there.

I ve been hearing that crap since 2007. Why some people cant just accept the fact Wii will never have such good 3rd party support as PS360. Wii has inferior hardware and weird controlls and coz of that developers kinda hate to develop games for it. Also, shooters and mature games dont sell on wii



BladeOfGod said:
dahuman said:
BladeOfGod said:
Smashchu2 said:
BladeOfGod said:
It aint gonna happen. Wii is not PlayStation

I really hope you don't actually beleive that!?


I B_E_L_E_I_V_E

blade man, I can somewhat understand where you are coming from, but sales, data, and consumers don't lie, it's already happening and about to get there.

I ve been hearing that crap since 2007. Why some people cant just accept the fact Wii will never have such good 3rd party support as PS360. Wii has inferior hardware and weird controlls and coz of that developers kinda hate to develop games for it. Also, shooters and mature games dont sell on wii

Wow... I've been hearing that crap since 2006 and still doesn't mean there aren't M rated and FPS million sellers on Wii...

And 2007 Wii was rocking, most of the "3rd parties love HD" deal mostly came about in 2008 when Wii had an amazing start to the year with 3 games that trounced anything on other systems but when the Nintendo support kinda fizzled only a few third parties stood up and gave the gamers what they wanted, but on HD consoles they got things like GTAIV, MGS4, and Fallout 3 some of the biggest games in 2008.   It's just shifts man it happens all the time... HD development started when the 360 was announced, took a bit to get support to come, third parties went down that road, a few found success and a good bit have found financial ruin or are just completely gone. 

Look at the big scope, first year of Wii even though it was selling more then any console in history third parties do listen to the "core" gamers out there, the magazines, the sites, and the forum guys.  They see all the Wii bashing mostly because that has always been Nintendo's stigma in the industry, third parties don't know how well this new system can keep up those sales with what they assume is "the majority of gamers" opinion, coupled with the development on the 360 already a year ahead of the Wii development.  Ok you have plans on making these titles on either 360 or PS3 at first cause people love exclusives, going down the development cycle developers realize how much they're truly investing in these games and that first parties lied about how it was only a marginal increase, so either they go multiplat, get that "money hat", or get paid to stay exclusive which happened with a lot of the 2008 games when more news about them came in 2007 and mid 2008.  And then when these games that have taken far longer to develop then they should have, more resources then they should have, and put some developers out of business what do you think they're going to do? 

This isn't everyone some have found ways to do well on the PS3 and 360 but a good bit of the smaller guys the ones that made a vast majoirty of PS2's library are seeing these issues, even companies as big as EA are.



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@Naysayers, take a look at graphs I posted earlier. I can't see that 70% Wii 3rd party support not gonna happen eventually.

Moreover if you get rid of % and take into consideration actual numbers Wii success even more overwhelming. Let's take very successful second half of 2008 in US, 3rd parties responsible for about 68% of this success. That's around ~43M software sold by 3rd parties only. The best performer after Wii is X360, it sold ~48M games over the same period, all types of games - 1st\2nd and 3rd party. Needles to say that PS3 is far behind.

You may not like Wii 3rd party support, but saying it's inferior to X360 or PS3 sales wise... that's delusional or may I say... dumb, if I'm not too harsh?



Just noticed something ... So far in 2009, in North America, the Wii has sold 20,740,551 third party games, the XBox 360 has sold 18,635,926 third party games, and the PS3 has sold 9,877,985 third party games.

When you factor in the releases of a couple of big third party games so far this year (like Resident Evil 5 and Street Fighter 4), the lack of good third party support for years (preventing residual sales of third party games), and the dramatic difference in development costs across platforms, I think it would be difficult/impossible to argue that third party publishers are not doing really well on the Wii.