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Feylic said:
yo_john117 said:
Feylic said:
A taste of their own medicine. But it'd be better not to stoop to their level

You know there are 2 sides to that coin right?


Say whaaaaat?  How can a coin have 2 sides?

The same way a Blade can have two edges.......



 



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"I envy you. You North Americans are very lucky. You are fighting the most important fight of all- you live in the heart of the beast." 

Ernesto "Che" Guevara.

HeroeDeLeyenda said:
Thank you Crazzyman for making VgChartz fun

Thnx, i`m enjoying This thread A LOT. =)



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

GameAnalyser said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
 

 

E. The 360 is not struggling to outsell the PS3. It managed it without even bothering to add in the 360's strongest market.


Infact the statement E. doesn't look convincing, taking into account the price difference. Why is there only a finite gap? U'll need to explain...

So glad you asked. "Struggling" implies that it is having difficulty doing so on a consistant basis. Price difference isn't mentioned here because it is irrelivant. The statement I was refuting involved the "360 struggling to outsell the PS3 despite the price difference" not "the 360 would not outsell the PS3 without the price difference."

So yes, once again, "struggling" implies difficulty. In reality, the 360 has been outselling the PS3 on a consistant basis worldwide with relatively little danger of that changing due to anything but a price cut by Sony.

That is why E is 100 percent correct. The PS3, in its closest week lately, couldn't outsell the 360, without counting America. Thus, it isn't exactly "struggling," to outsell it. It is doing so on a very consistant basis.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

NanakiXI said:
This thread is now just people Failing to show the OP he is wrong in facts. So in fact people trying to show him he failed are the ones even failing harder than the OP because now they are just using BS theories.

Fail+Fail=Epic Failure

This thread is one fail short of a salt stand in the desert.

Actually, if you read my post, you will see that I completely suceeded in proving the OP wrong, with facts, irrefutable opinion, and most importantly iron clad logic.

I think that you HOPE it would be impossible to prove the OP wrong. It isn't. You should read everyone's post before you respond with such a broad generalization....or at least mine.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

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indodude said:
Fail + Fail = Fail

Ah, now I see how the OP is working.
He's working under the "2 negatives make a positive" rule.

 

Or hoping that's the rule



As long as 360 is outselling PS3 every week, then your thread title fails.

I dont care what the price gap is, I only see the results.

Same time in 2008 the PS3 was outselling 360, now its a role reversal.



thekitchensink said:
360 is definitely dead.

Pretty much, it`s doing poorly with mass market price.

ElectronicRocker said:
Hes right
the 360 only outsells the ps3 by 20k
but look at the infamous bundle in uk
it only costs 279 pounds
i think it pretty safe that sony will drop the price of the ps3 by 50-100$/€ sometime later this year

and with systemsellers like GT5, i think the ps3 might outsell the 360 by 1,5-1,8/1 over the holiday season

Thnx, though x360 having problem with outselling PS3 WW by more than 5-10k lately, not even 20k. Most likely, during inFAMOUS release week PS3 will again outsell x360 WW this year. So far, x360 has nothing against PS3 in next few months.

luisgvm said:
i kinda agree with you in the part that the 360 should be selling more with its current price.

Well, atleast some people understand, that PS3 at 299$ wouldn`t be selling that BAD, as x360 today at 199-299$.

Feylic said:
A taste of their own medicine. But it'd be better not to stoop to their level

Hehe, True. =) But, they need to realize, that it`s x360 in reality doing BAD, and only what is left for x360 is 199$ for Pro, while in Europe 60Gb model already cost 239€, unless moving to 149€(almost like giving for free), M$ already lost Europe.

Endz said:
I don't think his post is that crazy... he put up numbers and stating some things like prices in various regions and game offerings this year.

The "doom" language is pushing it though, still just look past that. I agree in that both are head to head with xbox 360 offered for a very low price while PS3 is still pretty high and that should make MS worry a bit. What if PS3 was offered at the same price? With this economic trouble it is a bit amazing that PS3 is selling just as good as xbox 360.

So yea, of course this is trouble for MS, they don't want their competition to be so close to their sales and with prices drops already exhausted somewhat for MS, Sony has more "tactics" to use (just a freaking price drop, not a clever thought) but Sony seems against price drops so MS can worry less for now.

It`s NICE, that you undersand. =) Also, about PS3 priceut, IF Sony was able to give away 30$ profit on every PS2, they are definitely in position to make a pricecut on PS3. Especially after 45nm Cell and RSX. PS3 is getting A LOT of GREAT games this year, and with mass market price, it will be just ustoptable. And like GC at 99$, x360 60Gb Pro for 199$ won`t be able to stop 299$ 80Gb PS3 this Christmas.

PS3beats360 said:
^PS3 outsold 360 by around 1 million back in same period of 2008. Now only 300k 360 lead over PS3 in 2009, PS3 remains at the same price of $399 as last year. PS3 is catching up to the 360 in sales and is priced a lot higher than 360.

INDEED, PS3 after selling more, than 1,5 years at same 400$ price, manages to sell on PAR with x360, which just had a pricecut half a year ago.

GameAnalyser said:
PS3beats360 said:
Microsoft cheated the consumer by launching a faulty, unreliable system in the XBox 360 a year ahead of PS3 to pick up a 5.5 million to 6 million head start on PS3.

Microsoft should stick to software your not cut out to make hardware.

The 360 could have two or three years left in it to run before it disappears from the market.

and another 2 mn thru holiday 2008 with price-cut bringing the gap margin to 8 mn. A year head start+ holiday 2008 sums it up.  Agree  with every word there.

Yeah, mass market price(299$) for main model helped a little x360 during Christmas, but since Killzone 2 release, it doesn`t work anymore.

Username2324 said:
I love how no one cares about all the failed logic in the
"PS3 is doomed" threads, but god forbid someone notices that the 360 can barely outsell its 2x the price competitor!

It's real simple logic:
$199 360 vs. $399 PS3 = same sales, therefore if either of the two are doomed, I'd put my money on the 360.

And there's no doubt that the PS3's software line up is very impressive in comparison to previous years.

So are either of them doomed? Probably not, but if one were to drop out early, it's almost certainly going to be the 360.

People are probably just in denial, x360 is selling at much lower price, than PS3, and still struggling to outsell PS3 WW on a weekly basis.

rafichamp said:
I TOLD U IT WOULD HAPPEN. The 360 is dead, like Sega. Even if the 360 drops the price on its console, the $199.99 is the magic mark. Further cuts will do nothing!

It`s now only a matter of time. More important thing, that some people who wanted x360 for 199$, already have purchased an Arcade model, so when x360 60Gb Pro will reach 199$ price, it won`t have that big effect, which it could. While, when PS3 will enter mass market price(299$), more and more people will chose PS3, which is really a GREAT value at freaking 299$.



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far



I cant believe people have questioned the integrity and intelligence of mr crazzy! He makes his points so articulately!



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