| ChichiriMuyo said: So basically the PS3 is really good at something the typical owner will never use it for. Yay? |
Basically, that's it.
| CGI-Quality said: I'm baffled by the some of the negative reception to this. Why is this news so bothersome to some? |
Not cheerleading the Cell is not saying that the processor is bad. What we need is some perspective, and realize the highs and lows of the chip. It's not the second coming, only that. Having a good FOH performance is not what we, as gamers, need. FOH doesn't translate directly to performance in games, that's all.
Kynes said:
Not cheerleading the Cell is not saying that the processor is bad. What we need is some perspective, and realize the highs and lows of the chip. It's not the second coming, only that. Having a good FOH performance is not what we, as gamers, need. FOH doesn't translate directly to performance in games, that's all. |
Well, I am not saying either that CELL is bad. Its excellent when it comes to heavily parallel FP operating. Thats why they are using CELL for scientific stuff etc. Unfortunately games aren't that simple and actually CELL is more encumbrance than useful in games.
(To be honest XENON isn't either that good for games. Its in order like CELL and that can actually nearly halve its efficiency in games. Both of them encourage to make simple games, because they can't really handle anything complex.)
Soleron said:
It'll be a great technical achievement, but much like the Itanium it'll fail because it won't be quite as good as a specialised GPU or CPU of the time. Also, have you seen the die size and rumoured TDP? It'll be the largest die of any serious tech product ever and consume close to 300W... and still not beat Nvidia or AMD due to the compromises made for it to be x86 compatible. "Mike, you can say what you want, but an in order, RISC CPU is not what Joe Sixpack needs in his PC." Um, we're all running RISC CPUs. x86 is translated to an internal instruction set which is RISC in nature. |
Actually, I totally agree with you. Parallelism this massive will require massive rotooling and rethinking of code to reallize potential. I question the viablilty of Larrabee as a consumer-level CPU for quite some time yet. This post was really meant as another example of how architectures have inherant stregnths and weaknesses, and these headlines serve as nothing more than ways for insecure fanboys to feel good about themselves.
PS3 is my HD platform of choice, but the Cell is just another peice of silicon. When the NES was released, it used a lowly 6502, yet it had great games nonetheless.
| dahuman said: it's a tricore powerpc with some special instructions lol, not much to say about that. |
Xenon is a CPU that is used in the Xbox 360 game console. The processor, internally codenamed "Waternoose" by IBM[1] and "XCPU" by Microsoft, is based on IBM's PowerPC instruction set architecture, consisting of three independent processor cores on a single die. These cores are slightly modified versions of the PPE in the Cell processor which was designed specifically for the PlayStation 3.
Taken right from wiki
If you program for Cell it is the most powerful CPU available. END OF STORY
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And on the third day God Created TEH CELL!!!!
Anyway allz I know is real life. And in real life I'm tired of upgrading my GPU so it can create graphics which, !!TEH Cell!! hooks me up with every day.
When the PS3 dies in 2025 I will take out "The CELL" and make out with it.
rckrz6 said:
Xenon is a CPU that is used in the Xbox 360 game console. The processor, internally codenamed "Waternoose" by IBM[1] and "XCPU" by Microsoft, is based on IBM's PowerPC instruction set architecture, consisting of three independent processor cores on a single die. These cores are slightly modified versions of the PPE in the Cell processor which was designed specifically for the PlayStation 3.
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and? what exactly is different from that and what I typed? I simply put down what it boiled down to, I don't type things in heavy technical details because most consumers don't know what they are lol. do you even understand what the PPE in the Cell processor is? =)
| Kynes said: PS: I can't believe that you don't even know that Cell is an in order chip. You know, designing a 3.2 GHz and not too high power consumition chip has it's disadvantages, one of them is having to criple the chip and leaving the out of order logic aside. |
Has it ever happened to you, pointing right when you say left. It was a minor typo, nothing else. Why not just politely point to this fact like I would? It's honestly nothing for you to get upset about.
It's an in order processor design, just like many past and current processors out there, like for instance classic Amiga computer processors, etc, but a whole lot more feature rich and having far more calculative power.
wow!
All that and a Blu-Ray player for $400?
SOLD!
(and the CBE in the OP is the one used in PS3's, imagine a newer one!)
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