starcraft said:
Beoulve said:
Akvod said:
starcraft said:
ssj12 said:
starcraft said:
I know this is contentious, but the whole premise of this site and the industry it supports is innovation, competition, investment and depth within the gaming industry. Whatever the disagreement over to what extent, there is no denying the piracy and console modding costs this industry a tonne of money, and inevitability results in sackings, game cancellations and a lack of innovation.
At the very least, people admitting to piracy on VGChartz are being granted a forum to advocate their illegal and disruptive actions.
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Half this site would be banned... including a good portion of the mod team. Remember if your banning for piracy you would also have to ban for piracy from other industries which would include music and software. I'm pretty sure 95% of this community has or have downloaded music illegally before.
Your understanding of the term console modding is way to general of a subject as there are different forms of modding. There is the modding to change the look of a console. A great example of this is Queen Elizabeth's gold plated Nintendo Wii. By the way you make it sound Nintendo should ban her friend code from use because it doesn't look like the manufacturer intended. There is also the modding, which I support, which allows a user to do things they can't normally do like use Windows XP on the PSP. I see no reason why console manufacturers have any right to tell you what you can or cannot do with a product you purchased.
Doing illegal things like downloading games and playing them is a different being in terms of law. It is going against copyright laws. This is what the industry should be fighting, not general modification of a game device that you own. |
Are you kidding? Why on earth would a video game site have to take an in principle opposition to film and music piracy?
I already established in a post further down the thread that I meant console modding for the purpose of pirac
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Because if we're going to be so high and mighty, and ban people for the purpose of justice and morality, we shouldn't limit our selves to self interest. Doing so itself is immoral and unjust.
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Yeah, I agree. Otherwise it's just hypocrisy.
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On the contrary. Self-interest is exactly what I'm advocating.
Protect the industry we're hear to care about.
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Because this is an open forum. I don't care if there's someone who comes in here to make an anti-video game thread. I personally do think that while "murder simulator" is excessive, we do have some blood lust, and we can see that the people we play are the heroes and antiheroes that we think are so cool (and their actions).
Because we're not a video game industry forum. Some of us can give a shit about the industry, and only care about the game (you constantly hear, especially from PS3 fans, "I don't care about sales, as long as I get good games"). You may say that they're stupid, because ruining the industry will take away the very games they love, but regardless, they're still gamers, and they're relevant.
Because I believe in free speech. Because I believe that we can't hold a fool proof trial and investigation, nor should we. Because all this will do is stop people from admitting what they do and acknowleding their flaws. All people will do is say "I'm not a pirate" and that's that, nothing will be solved.
All this will do is start a self righteous witch hunt, that won't help the video game industry, that'll give us an responsibility we don't bear, and makes a simple internet forum, where we post under aliases, way too personal and out reaching. Who the fuck gives a shit about someone's outside life? Are we going to start patrolling Facebook sites to see if they did anything to hurt the video game industry?
And if we're going to go with your rationale that we're here to serve the video game industry, then should we ban people who buy used games, rent, and don't want to limit installations of PC games?
Really, lets just stick with objective rules, which purposes are to make sure that the forum runs smoothly.
