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Supply not being diverted...

So its not selling out anymore then, since its still selling 25k in japan.. Also its dropped from 115k to 95k in North america.
Usually it sells 250k weekly world wide, yet it still hasnt reached 200k... Sales are dropping supply is their.



 

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I had put it down to a slight dip due to increased awareness of Halo 3 and partially down to stabilization after MP3. I didnt really consider it a serious long term trend however because its within 10% of the sales before MP3 (August weekly sales) and that is within this sites margin of error.



I posted this in one of the other eight threads on this topic so I will add it here as well.

This is for Japan: 
If you go back to the week of July 28th and compare it with the most recent week you get this...

Wii: -62.49%
PS3: -63.29%
360: -60.30%

I used the 28th because it was a corresponding high point for all 3 consoles before the downward trend in the recent weeks, so it was a good choice to be fair to all consoles.
 

As far as the 360 in the US, I would say it was expected for the 360 sales to go up this close to Halo 3 and it will continue to be that way in the US for a few weeks I agree. But on the WW level even at these already boosted sales levels the 360 is quite a bit behind the Wii. It will of course make a good run at overtaking the Wii when Halo 3 is launched but I am not convinced these sales will be long term or even that it will pass the Wii at all on a WW basis.

Either way the US issue is the 360 going up not the Wii coming down. And I don't think there are too many people who think the 360 is going to continue to sell at the Halo 3 launch week level so things will return to at least somewhere near normal by mid-October.



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Rath said:
Personally I doubt it.
If you look into the Japanese sales you will see that all consoles are hitting rock bottom for the year, this is the slowest period in Japan.

If you look into the American sales you see it comes down to one thing 'Halo 3' the Wii is trundling along at the same rate as before (more or less) but Halo 3 has given the X360 a huge boost. This weeks increased sales are likely due to the release of the Halo 3 system.

Also third parties dont switch with every little shift in the console market, only massive shifts like the PS3 - Wii shift (PS3 pre launch - Wii post launch) and even now the effects of that shift are only slowly becoming evident. In any case the Japanese developers wont be showing any love to the X360 and their games are perhaps the biggest in general, they will almost certainly go with consoles doing well in Japan.

 Rath you couldn't had said it any better. 8)



1. How can you complain about a console that topped the console charts in USA and Japan from the day of its launch until now.
2. Despite drops Wii is still selling enormous. People tend to believe that a week under 30.000 (Japan) is very bad, but as mentioned numerous times on these forums, the PS2 did 3000 this time in its lifecycle.
3. 360 is a great machine with great games, but unfortunately for MS USA only (maybe some Europe support). The big Japanese franchises (DQ, FF, KH...) will never come to 360 exclusively.
4. Wii has 4 major games still coming: SMG, SSBB, WiiFit, Mario Kart, from next month will be the only console that has arcade shooters (on rails) that really match the arcade experience and some great games like Zack&Wicky and SC:Legends coming. I'm not saying these games are better than 360's, but enough to re-generate momentum and get more "hardcore gamers" buying it as a second console.

All in all I think the Wii has nothing to worry about. It will match Gamecube sales within 1.5 years and is still sold out in some places in the States, which is incredible. I would be worried once Wii gets beaten by PS3 for a few months in a row, but thats not likely to happen before FF XIII and MGS4 and GT5 are out.



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The Wii has blown all expectations out of proportions. Selling less than 30k/week suddenly is such a bad thing that spelled doom all over the Wii.

*ahem*

OMGONOZWIIISDOOM!!11!!ONE!!!11!



it's only these last two weeks it has dropped WW, they are quite big drops though which rules out demand being met (demand doesn't suddenly drop like that)
Wii has been riding high WW since the beginning of June, it's just come back down is all, i predict maybe a small drop, or stable next week (won't go back under 200k) and a rise the week after (how big a rise i dunno)



Wii will outsell the PS2 in a similar timeframe.

Yeah, x360 is getting a boost due to Halo, and Sony are shooting themselves in the foot which will drive potential PS3 buyers to the X360 (maybe Elite), but Wii will continue to trundle along.

i don't think the gradient for Wii sales can continue, and it will flatten out, but still remain reletively high. this generation does belong to the Wii, because they have the casual market, 360 and PS3 are going for the relatively small hardcore market which Sony will lose (M$ won't win it, Sony will lose it).



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IMO, in the US and Europe, it seems like the Wii has a long way ahead until it'd start slowing down.

Mainly because the X360 and PS3 top-tier games aren't out yet. Halo3 is just the first in a huge slew of games, that could (emphasis on could) steal Wii thunder.

You basically have:

Super Mario Galaxy
Super Smash Brothers Brawl

vs.

Halo 3
Mass Effect

&

Metal Gear Solid 4
Final Fantasy XIII

+ Non-Wii Multiports:
Grand Theft Auto 4
Call of Duty 4
Rock Band

Now, the question is: can SMG and SSBB continue the Wii trend of uber-sellers, and allow Nintendo to re-capture the inititive in Japan, and restart 70k/wk sales, and hit insane holiday numbers?

I know some argue that "oh, the Wii is just down like every other system is down". True, but only to a point. The Playstation 3 is nowhere near it's lowest, despite few good games out - Bladestorm and HSG5 are the only 2 major games selling right now. So why exactly has the Wii gone from selling 7:1 to just 2:1? If the market was totally in recession, why isn't the ratio keeping in lock? For the PSP vs. DS, it was handily going in the DS's favor until FF:CC released on PSP, creating an anomaly.


As I've been saying for the whole year, I still see the Wii sales cresting in the US and Europe next year, slowly losing marketshare to the PS3 and X360. Remember, there was a time for 3-4 months that Wii sales were beating X360 and PS3 combined rather easily. That's not quite the case anymore. If that trend continued, MS will regain the US per-month lead, and will stay there, as the X360 lineup seems to be more favorable in the US, and the PS3 lineup, in Europe.

IMO, I still see the race being that Sony gets Europe barely, MS gets the US by a decent margin, and the Wii still manages a good lead in Japan. But we'll see how 2008 goes with the influx of Wii software.



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