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MaxwellGT2000 said:
mjc2021 said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
Esa-Petteri said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
mjc2021 said:
@ MaxwellGT2000
And I was pointing out why that game in particular shouldn't be included. Either way people bought it because it has a Nintendo franchise. I don't think it should be included, you disagree. Lets leave it to that.

 

 How do you know this, did you interview each and every person that bought it, did you take a survey?  Do you have any proof at all??? Didn't think so...

I guess you think it would have sold that much without mario? :)

 

 

I believe you missed the discussion which was the game third party and deserves to be included into the OP, try to troll somewhere else...


 

His response was relevant. Do you really think the game would have been as successful without an incredibly popular franchise?

 

Sonic games still sell in the millions, so it's not like it sells on Mario's name alone as you guys act, alone with Mario it probably wouldn't have sold as much, alone with Sonic is the same result, being the first game to include both icons was a big point but still doesn't mean it's sales dont matter.

@mjc:  I could ask you the same about the PS3 and 360 top-sellers.  What's your point?  It's still third party therefore its sales count.

@Maxwell: Don't bother with Esa Petteri, he's just the alt account of Kurakasa.  Would you believe he got banned for trolling?  

 

 



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mjc2021 said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
mjc2021 said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
Esa-Petteri said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
mjc2021 said:
@ MaxwellGT2000
And I was pointing out why that game in particular shouldn't be included. Either way people bought it because it has a Nintendo franchise. I don't think it should be included, you disagree. Lets leave it to that.

 

 How do you know this, did you interview each and every person that bought it, did you take a survey?  Do you have any proof at all??? Didn't think so...

I guess you think it would have sold that much without mario? :)

 

 

I believe you missed the discussion which was the game third party and deserves to be included into the OP, try to troll somewhere else...


 

His response was relevant. Do you really think the game would have been as successful without an incredibly popular franchise?

 

Sonic games still sell in the millions, so it's not like it sells on Mario's name alone as you guys act, alone with Mario it probably wouldn't have sold as much, alone with Sonic is the same result, being the first game to include both icons was a big point but still doesn't mean it's sales dont matter.


 

Yeah, in the millions with combined sales of multiple consoles.

Sonic & Mario combined gave better sales. But Sonic alone would sell much less than Mario alone.

 

Console exclusive 2 million sales http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=2104&region=All

Newer title almost a million http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=24508&region=All

Console exclusive near 3 million http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=2111&region=All

I could list even more but the point is Sonic's name is still a huge icon in gaming and sells well for it...



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mjc2021 said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
mjc2021 said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
Esa-Petteri said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
mjc2021 said:
@ MaxwellGT2000
And I was pointing out why that game in particular shouldn't be included. Either way people bought it because it has a Nintendo franchise. I don't think it should be included, you disagree. Lets leave it to that.

 

 How do you know this, did you interview each and every person that bought it, did you take a survey?  Do you have any proof at all??? Didn't think so...

I guess you think it would have sold that much without mario? :)

 

 

I believe you missed the discussion which was the game third party and deserves to be included into the OP, try to troll somewhere else...


 

His response was relevant. Do you really think the game would have been as successful without an incredibly popular franchise?

 

Sonic games still sell in the millions, so it's not like it sells on Mario's name alone as you guys act, alone with Mario it probably wouldn't have sold as much, alone with Sonic is the same result, being the first game to include both icons was a big point but still doesn't mean it's sales dont matter.


 

Yeah, in the millions with combined sales of multiple consoles.

Sonic & Mario combined gave better sales. But Sonic alone would sell much less than Mario alone.

If that were true then why did Sonic and the Secret Rings outsell Mario Strikers Charged and Mario Suger Sluggers?

The name doesn't mean as much as you claim it does.

 



Inigo13 said:
mjc2021 said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
mjc2021 said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
Esa-Petteri said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
mjc2021 said:
@ MaxwellGT2000
And I was pointing out why that game in particular shouldn't be included. Either way people bought it because it has a Nintendo franchise. I don't think it should be included, you disagree. Lets leave it to that.

 

 How do you know this, did you interview each and every person that bought it, did you take a survey?  Do you have any proof at all??? Didn't think so...

I guess you think it would have sold that much without mario? :)

 

 

I believe you missed the discussion which was the game third party and deserves to be included into the OP, try to troll somewhere else...


 

His response was relevant. Do you really think the game would have been as successful without an incredibly popular franchise?

 

Sonic games still sell in the millions, so it's not like it sells on Mario's name alone as you guys act, alone with Mario it probably wouldn't have sold as much, alone with Sonic is the same result, being the first game to include both icons was a big point but still doesn't mean it's sales dont matter.


 

Yeah, in the millions with combined sales of multiple consoles.

Sonic & Mario combined gave better sales. But Sonic alone would sell much less than Mario alone.

If that were true then why did Sonic and the Secret Rings outsell Mario Strikers Charged and Mario Suger Sluggers?

The name doesn't mean as much as you claim it does.

 


Sonic and the Secret Rings in particular sold pretty but it was also an original game while Mario Strikers and Mario Sluggers are in a long list of sports games.

Try comparing any recent Sonic game to Mario Kart, Mario Party 8, Mario Galaxy, or Smash Bros.



MaxwellGT2000 said:
mjc2021 said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
mjc2021 said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
Esa-Petteri said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
mjc2021 said:
@ MaxwellGT2000
And I was pointing out why that game in particular shouldn't be included. Either way people bought it because it has a Nintendo franchise. I don't think it should be included, you disagree. Lets leave it to that.

 

 How do you know this, did you interview each and every person that bought it, did you take a survey?  Do you have any proof at all??? Didn't think so...

I guess you think it would have sold that much without mario? :)

 

 

I believe you missed the discussion which was the game third party and deserves to be included into the OP, try to troll somewhere else...


 

His response was relevant. Do you really think the game would have been as successful without an incredibly popular franchise?

 

Sonic games still sell in the millions, so it's not like it sells on Mario's name alone as you guys act, alone with Mario it probably wouldn't have sold as much, alone with Sonic is the same result, being the first game to include both icons was a big point but still doesn't mean it's sales dont matter.


 

Yeah, in the millions with combined sales of multiple consoles.

Sonic & Mario combined gave better sales. But Sonic alone would sell much less than Mario alone.

 

Console exclusive 2 million sales http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=2104&region=All

Newer title almost a million http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=24508&region=All

Console exclusive near 3 million http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=2111&region=All

I could list even more but the point is Sonic's name is still a huge icon in gaming and sells well for it...


Mario Kart has sold like 16 million. Mario Galaxy is at about 8 million. End of discussion.

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BoleroOfFire said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
mjc2021 said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
Esa-Petteri said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
mjc2021 said:
@ MaxwellGT2000
And I was pointing out why that game in particular shouldn't be included. Either way people bought it because it has a Nintendo franchise. I don't think it should be included, you disagree. Lets leave it to that.

 

 How do you know this, did you interview each and every person that bought it, did you take a survey?  Do you have any proof at all??? Didn't think so...

I guess you think it would have sold that much without mario? :)

 

 

I believe you missed the discussion which was the game third party and deserves to be included into the OP, try to troll somewhere else...


 

His response was relevant. Do you really think the game would have been as successful without an incredibly popular franchise?

 

Sonic games still sell in the millions, so it's not like it sells on Mario's name alone as you guys act, alone with Mario it probably wouldn't have sold as much, alone with Sonic is the same result, being the first game to include both icons was a big point but still doesn't mean it's sales dont matter.

@mjc:  I could ask you the same about the PS3 and 360 top-sellers.  What's your point?  It's still third party therefore its sales count.

@Maxwell: Don't bother with Esa Petteri, he's just the alt account of Kurakasa.  Would you believe he got banned for trolling?  

 

 


I'm not suggesting 3rd party developers should stop making games for the Wii. I'm just pointing out why they avoid putting their AAA games on the Wii.

mjc2021 said:
Inigo13said: 

If that were true then why did Sonic and the Secret Rings outsell Mario Strikers Charged and Mario Suger Sluggers?

The name doesn't mean as much as you claim it does.

 


 

Sonic and the Secret Rings in particular sold pretty but it was also an original game while Mario Strikers and Mario Sluggers are in a long list of sports games.

Try comparing any recent Sonic game to Mario Kart, Mario Party 8, Mario Galaxy, or Smash Bros.

What's your point?  

Comes from a long list of kart games.

      "             "                 party games.

      "              "                platformer games.

      "              "                fighting games.  

The cherry-picking continues...

 

 



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mjc2021 said:
Inigo13 said:
mjc2021 said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
mjc2021 said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
Esa-Petteri said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
mjc2021 said:
@ MaxwellGT2000
And I was pointing out why that game in particular shouldn't be included. Either way people bought it because it has a Nintendo franchise. I don't think it should be included, you disagree. Lets leave it to that.

 

 How do you know this, did you interview each and every person that bought it, did you take a survey?  Do you have any proof at all??? Didn't think so...

I guess you think it would have sold that much without mario? :)

 

 

I believe you missed the discussion which was the game third party and deserves to be included into the OP, try to troll somewhere else...


 

His response was relevant. Do you really think the game would have been as successful without an incredibly popular franchise?

 

Sonic games still sell in the millions, so it's not like it sells on Mario's name alone as you guys act, alone with Mario it probably wouldn't have sold as much, alone with Sonic is the same result, being the first game to include both icons was a big point but still doesn't mean it's sales dont matter.


 

Yeah, in the millions with combined sales of multiple consoles.

Sonic & Mario combined gave better sales. But Sonic alone would sell much less than Mario alone.

If that were true then why did Sonic and the Secret Rings outsell Mario Strikers Charged and Mario Suger Sluggers?

The name doesn't mean as much as you claim it does.

 


 

Sonic and the Secret Rings in particular sold pretty but it was also an original game while Mario Strikers and Mario Sluggers are in a long list of sports games.

Try comparing any recent Sonic game to Mario Kart, Mario Party 8, Mario Galaxy, or Smash Bros.

So, you're fully admitting it's the brand, series and genre that help the sales more than the name of Mario alone? You just invalidated your own argument.

 



BoleroOfFire said:
mjc2021 said:
Inigo13said: 

If that were true then why did Sonic and the Secret Rings outsell Mario Strikers Charged and Mario Suger Sluggers?

The name doesn't mean as much as you claim it does.

 


 

Sonic and the Secret Rings in particular sold pretty but it was also an original game while Mario Strikers and Mario Sluggers are in a long list of sports games.

Try comparing any recent Sonic game to Mario Kart, Mario Party 8, Mario Galaxy, or Smash Bros.

What's your point?  

Comes from a long list of kart games.

      "             "                 party games.

      "              "                platformer games.

      "              "                fighting games.  

The cherry-picking continues...

 

 


I didn't even think about that. But good point on why those in particular sold exceptionally well.

mjc2021 said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
mjc2021 said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
mjc2021 said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
Esa-Petteri said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
mjc2021 said:
@ MaxwellGT2000
And I was pointing out why that game in particular shouldn't be included. Either way people bought it because it has a Nintendo franchise. I don't think it should be included, you disagree. Lets leave it to that.

 

 How do you know this, did you interview each and every person that bought it, did you take a survey?  Do you have any proof at all??? Didn't think so...

I guess you think it would have sold that much without mario? :)

 

 

I believe you missed the discussion which was the game third party and deserves to be included into the OP, try to troll somewhere else...


 

His response was relevant. Do you really think the game would have been as successful without an incredibly popular franchise?

 

Sonic games still sell in the millions, so it's not like it sells on Mario's name alone as you guys act, alone with Mario it probably wouldn't have sold as much, alone with Sonic is the same result, being the first game to include both icons was a big point but still doesn't mean it's sales dont matter.


 

Yeah, in the millions with combined sales of multiple consoles.

Sonic & Mario combined gave better sales. But Sonic alone would sell much less than Mario alone.

 

Console exclusive 2 million sales http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=2104&region=All

Newer title almost a million http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=24508&region=All

Console exclusive near 3 million http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=2111&region=All

I could list even more but the point is Sonic's name is still a huge icon in gaming and sells well for it...


 

Mario Kart has sold like 16 million. Mario Galaxy is at about 8 million. End of discussion.

 

I'm certain those games sold well because of the Mario name alone not because of people thinking those were quality games /sarcasm

Really dude Bolero made the point about other mario titles, your logic is pretty bad.  End of discussion :P



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