Right on, so everyone is with me on the "Halo Box" name for Microsoft's next console?

Hell yeah!

Nah, it's going to be called the "Gear Box".

You do know that market perceptions such as 'the 360 demographic is skewed to shooters' has nothing to do with numbers, facts, etc?

Market perception is often set early and based on initial impressions/peformance.  The Xbox was Halo.  It only survived because of Halo and Halo 2 is the general perception.  Halo 3 was advertised everywhere and is still the most played title on Live.  Live is a key part of 360 success is a general perception and Live is all about Halo, Gears and CoD is another.  Games sales, etc. mean next to nothing next to the market perception established over time for MS and the Xbox and now the 360.

I know people on this site will use the term deliberately to inflame or insult, and that's wrong.  But the general guy wandering around a store with this generalization in his head isn't trying to be insulting - it's what he believes because of an established market perception.

And the more MS push the big shooter titles with marketing, with every headline on sites like this and others about how 'Halo 3 reclaimes the top spot as most played title' or 'Halo 3 attach rate for 360 breaks records for FPS titles' that perception is reinforced and reconfirmed.

The 360 has a broad library, its owners play a lot more than just shooters.  But that doesn't change the fact that it has a misaligned market perception.  It simply shows an area where MS still have work to do if they want to change that - as they themselves have noted publicly in releases.  The brand perception of their console is for shooters/action/mature titles.  They need to change it.  Just releasing a broad library doesn't change it overnight.

Consider IBM - that company changed inside out, but for years (probably still) most people would generally, if they heard or saw IBM, would think computers, hardware, etc.

Changing you established market perception is hard.

BTW I'm not saying that excuses people deliberately using the term.  But it is true to say that the 360 has that market perception, which is what I and some others have been trying to point out - the facts show that the 360 isn't just about shooters, but those facts don't change its image.

After exhausting research I think I have established the software criteria that will bestow a new name for the PS3. The console does well against the 360 in the area of platforming games. So we have a few choices to choose from, and I want some input before we accept the new title. First however the data.

360 11 titles, 8.35mil sold, 2% of titles, 3.5% of software sales.
PS3 12 titles, 6.52mil sold, 2.5% of titles, 5% of software sales.

I am sorry the 360 basically mangles Sony in every genre. This was the only place where I found that Sony actually won. Basically winning on all fronts aside from total sales, but once again Microsoft sells more regardless.

My thoughts.

The Kiddie Box.

This one has real sentimental, and even nostalgic implications. The Sony fans used to love labeling the previous two Nintendo consoles as kiddie. So it should have real burning potential.

The Playground.

Actually sounds pretty deviant. I am torn between this being a pedophiles dream, or one of those creepy fetish shops in the local mall. Either way it plays into the consoles name.

The Furry box.

Platforming games are always the bastion of cute and cuddly mascots. Personally I think its a guy in that suit, and if so he must be a super furry. Plus when a owner talks about jumping in for a play session we can say he or she is jumping into the fur pile.

I want opinions which way should we go with this. Remember a exaggeration is totally grounds to come up with a meaningless slur. So we were told in this thread. So which name will it be, or does anyone have a better one?

Reasonable indeed.

@Reasonable

I see your viewpoint, but popular misconception isn't an argument for the continued existence of outdated slurs. The popular misconception also says the PS3 doesn't have any games, has a lot of delayed ports, and is a failure of a console. That has not translated into the liberty for members on these forums to say things like the PS3 has no games, or to call the console the Delaystation.

Moderators have asked that members no longer use them, because they are firstly not as true as they were at one time, and secondly that they are only incendiary. This holds true for Shooter box as well as the others. The label just doesn't have a basis in reality.

The original poster is just asking that the same consideration be extended. When the 360 fans are not permitted to use slurs. Why are other fans being permitted to do so. Being on the losing side does not excuse you from behaving in a civil manner, or from using blatant propaganda.

I take a few things away from this thread post.

1. METAL GEAR 4 IS NOT A SHOOTER. I don't really like shooters, and sir it is not a shooter. For god sake, there is a medal for not killing anyone in the game. That qualify it as not a shooter. Fix it.

2. Without a doubt, yes Sony has thrown so many shooters out the door, its ridiculous. Why? A sorry attempt to attract gun loving adolescences to buy a PS3. At the cost of my next point...

3. Out of almost three years, Sony has yet to release a RPG to sell to us. But waste resources to chase down Xbox 360 shooter domination line up. And it is a domination when you have a 9.5+ million sold copy of a exclusive FPS. And though you only counting exclusives, 7.3 million COD4 to date.

Now I for one applaud Microsoft for making in roads to other genres. Heck, that is why I bought one last year. I will never play Halo or any other shooter on it and I been checking out worthy RPGs on it. But it is the home for console shooters. Its nothing wrong with that. Play to your strengths I say.

I know.People calm down.

Shooterbox confirmed.

Hold on SOCOM is a FPS??? O_o