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ChichiriMuyo said:
Woo Twesterm with almost exactly the response I expected. Dude, it's the lowest in the world. Maybe you need to reevaluate what your definition of "stupid high" is. I can't even imagine what sorts of adjectives you'd use for the likes of Zimbabwe, Armenia, Georgia etc. with their 90%+ piracy rates.

 

10 people got killed in constuction site A because someone messed up and 100 people killed in contruction site B because someone made the same mistake.

Yes, many more people died in B but the amount that died in A is still stupid high.

I know that piracy is higher in the other areas but 20% is still a really high number.  Just because NA has the lowest number does not mean that the number is an acceptable amount.



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famousringo said:
Doesn't the US also have some of the lowest software prices? From what I've seen, they're very high in Europe, and people in developing economies have less disposible income to spend on computer software and hardware, raising the price from an opportunity cost perspective.

Just searching for an obvious explanation here.

 

Acrually, that's a very reasonable explanation.  The reason the US is the country with the least piracy is because it is the one with the most people that can afford the prices while countries where people can't have the highest rates.  Though the deal about prices being higher in Europe doesn't seem to matter much.  The fact of the matter is that absolutely everything costs more in most parts of Europe and people get paid more there as well.  Minimum wage in, say, Ireland is 50% higher than the US.  At least.



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twesterm said:
ChichiriMuyo said:
Woo Twesterm with almost exactly the response I expected. Dude, it's the lowest in the world. Maybe you need to reevaluate what your definition of "stupid high" is. I can't even imagine what sorts of adjectives you'd use for the likes of Zimbabwe, Armenia, Georgia etc. with their 90%+ piracy rates.

 

10 people got killed in constuction site A because someone messed up and 100 people killed in contruction site B because someone made the same mistake.

Yes, many more people died in B but the amount that died in A is still stupid high.

I know that piracy is higher in the other areas but 20% is still a really high number.  Just because NA has the lowest number does not mean that the number is an acceptable amount.

 

Obviously 20% is not a really high number, it's a really low number.  It's as low as it gets, at least for the now.  If the recession ends, it'll drop, because for the most part piracy is related to the number of people who can afford the software they want.

Oh, and your example is terrible.  If a given type of accident could kill 10 or 100 people I'd be happy as can be that it was only ten.  Yeah, people dying isn't exacly a good outcome, but it's better than a lto more people dying any day of the week.



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ChichiriMuyo said:
twesterm said:
ChichiriMuyo said:
Woo Twesterm with almost exactly the response I expected. Dude, it's the lowest in the world. Maybe you need to reevaluate what your definition of "stupid high" is. I can't even imagine what sorts of adjectives you'd use for the likes of Zimbabwe, Armenia, Georgia etc. with their 90%+ piracy rates.

 

10 people got killed in constuction site A because someone messed up and 100 people killed in contruction site B because someone made the same mistake.

Yes, many more people died in B but the amount that died in A is still stupid high.

I know that piracy is higher in the other areas but 20% is still a really high number.  Just because NA has the lowest number does not mean that the number is an acceptable amount.

 

Obviously 20% is not a really high number, it's a really low number.  It's as low as it gets, at least for the now.  If the recession ends, it'll drop, because for the most part piracy is related to the number of people who can afford the software they want.

Oh, and your example is terrible.  If a given type of accident could kill 10 or 100 people I'd be happy as can be that it was only ten.  Yeah, people dying isn't exacly a good outcome, but it's better than a lto more people dying any day of the week.

 

I don't think you're getting what I'm telling you.  I'm not saying 10 people dead is as bad as 100 people dead or that 20% is as bad as 50%, I'm just saying 20% is still a really high number.  That is all.

Going back to my bad construction site example, 10 people died at one site and 100 people died at the other.  Going from what you said, you seem to think the 10 people dying is alright because that's as low as it gets.  That may be more preferable, but it still isn't right.  I think that's where you're getting confused.



20% is still just crazy considering how much software is sold here. And people wonder why video gaming can still be so expensive. Even further why all these other things go on that could be avoided simply if some people had some god damn respect. Pirates be damned if you ask me. Because of the selfishness of some, the rest of us have to pay... literally.

One of the loopholes of capitalism I suppose. Hopefully we'll continue to crack down on this and more things like PS3 that have yet to be pirated such that we don't have to worry about this in later years. I just hope we continue to crack down more on piracy in the rest of the world. Piracy is definitely something holding the industry back from continuing to expand. All I know is if you are participating in this, then you are a problem. If I had it my way I'd deal with you personally.



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twesterm said:
ChichiriMuyo said:
twesterm said:
ChichiriMuyo said:
Woo Twesterm with almost exactly the response I expected. Dude, it's the lowest in the world. Maybe you need to reevaluate what your definition of "stupid high" is. I can't even imagine what sorts of adjectives you'd use for the likes of Zimbabwe, Armenia, Georgia etc. with their 90%+ piracy rates.

 

10 people got killed in constuction site A because someone messed up and 100 people killed in contruction site B because someone made the same mistake.

Yes, many more people died in B but the amount that died in A is still stupid high.

I know that piracy is higher in the other areas but 20% is still a really high number.  Just because NA has the lowest number does not mean that the number is an acceptable amount.

 

Obviously 20% is not a really high number, it's a really low number.  It's as low as it gets, at least for the now.  If the recession ends, it'll drop, because for the most part piracy is related to the number of people who can afford the software they want.

Oh, and your example is terrible.  If a given type of accident could kill 10 or 100 people I'd be happy as can be that it was only ten.  Yeah, people dying isn't exacly a good outcome, but it's better than a lto more people dying any day of the week.

 

I don't think you're getting what I'm telling you.  I'm not saying 10 people dead is as bad as 100 people dead or that 20% is as bad as 50%, I'm just saying 20% is still a really high number.  That is all.

Going back to my bad construction site example, 10 people died at one site and 100 people died at the other.  Going from what you said, you seem to think the 10 people dying is alright because that's as low as it gets.  That may be preferable, but it still isn't right.  I think that's where you're getting confused.

I'm not confused, I'm just willing to admit that "what is right" doesn't occur very often in this mixed up, crazy world of ours.  Either you play the hand that's dealt to you or you fold.  Me?  I'll keep playing, thank you very much.



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twesterm said:
ChichiriMuyo said:
twesterm said:
ChichiriMuyo said:
Woo Twesterm with almost exactly the response I expected. Dude, it's the lowest in the world. Maybe you need to reevaluate what your definition of "stupid high" is. I can't even imagine what sorts of adjectives you'd use for the likes of Zimbabwe, Armenia, Georgia etc. with their 90%+ piracy rates.

 

10 people got killed in constuction site A because someone messed up and 100 people killed in contruction site B because someone made the same mistake.

Yes, many more people died in B but the amount that died in A is still stupid high.

I know that piracy is higher in the other areas but 20% is still a really high number.  Just because NA has the lowest number does not mean that the number is an acceptable amount.

 

Obviously 20% is not a really high number, it's a really low number.  It's as low as it gets, at least for the now.  If the recession ends, it'll drop, because for the most part piracy is related to the number of people who can afford the software they want.

Oh, and your example is terrible.  If a given type of accident could kill 10 or 100 people I'd be happy as can be that it was only ten.  Yeah, people dying isn't exacly a good outcome, but it's better than a lto more people dying any day of the week.

 

I don't think you're getting what I'm telling you.  I'm not saying 10 people dead is as bad as 100 people dead or that 20% is as bad as 50%, I'm just saying 20% is still a really high number.  That is all.

Going back to my bad construction site example, 10 people died at one site and 100 people died at the other.  Going from what you said, you seem to think the 10 people dying is alright because that's as low as it gets.  That may be preferable, but it still isn't right.  I think that's where you're getting confused.

 

Twesterm, lets say that in order to save the 100 people, you had to kill the other 10 people. Which would you choose?

Clearly 10 people dying is the good choice! What if the 20% of piracy we have is to save us from having 80% of piracy and a nuclear halocaust?

Now you can see why 20% piracy is a good thing!

Damn my logic is amazing. I'm going to write a book!



ChichiriMuyo said:
twesterm said:
ChichiriMuyo said:
twesterm said:
ChichiriMuyo said:
Woo Twesterm with almost exactly the response I expected. Dude, it's the lowest in the world. Maybe you need to reevaluate what your definition of "stupid high" is. I can't even imagine what sorts of adjectives you'd use for the likes of Zimbabwe, Armenia, Georgia etc. with their 90%+ piracy rates.

 

10 people got killed in constuction site A because someone messed up and 100 people killed in contruction site B because someone made the same mistake.

Yes, many more people died in B but the amount that died in A is still stupid high.

I know that piracy is higher in the other areas but 20% is still a really high number.  Just because NA has the lowest number does not mean that the number is an acceptable amount.

 

Obviously 20% is not a really high number, it's a really low number.  It's as low as it gets, at least for the now.  If the recession ends, it'll drop, because for the most part piracy is related to the number of people who can afford the software they want.

Oh, and your example is terrible.  If a given type of accident could kill 10 or 100 people I'd be happy as can be that it was only ten.  Yeah, people dying isn't exacly a good outcome, but it's better than a lto more people dying any day of the week.

 

I don't think you're getting what I'm telling you.  I'm not saying 10 people dead is as bad as 100 people dead or that 20% is as bad as 50%, I'm just saying 20% is still a really high number.  That is all.

Going back to my bad construction site example, 10 people died at one site and 100 people died at the other.  Going from what you said, you seem to think the 10 people dying is alright because that's as low as it gets.  That may be preferable, but it still isn't right.  I think that's where you're getting confused.

I'm not confused, I'm just willing to admit that "what is right" doesn't occur very often in this mixed up, crazy world of ours.  Either you play the hand that's dealt to you or you fold.  Me?  I'll keep playing, thank you very much.

 

What are you even talking about? I'm not trying to argue what's right and wrong, I'm not saying how to fix it, I'm not even going to talk about what kind of scum pirates are, I am just making an obvservation about that 20% number.

Again, all I'm saying is 20% is a really stupid high number.  Again, I realize it's the lowest and the best number of them all, but that still doesn't mean it's a good number.

-edit-

How about this:

You have $100 and lose some of that money for some reason and get nothing in return.  You are either going to lose $20, $50, $75, or $80.  Which of those numbers is good?

With what you're trying to say, you're trying to say losing $20 is good because it's the lowest.  What I'm trying to say is losing $20 is still losing a lot of money for nothing.



twesterm said:
ChichiriMuyo said:
twesterm said:
ChichiriMuyo said:
twesterm said:
ChichiriMuyo said:
Woo Twesterm with almost exactly the response I expected. Dude, it's the lowest in the world. Maybe you need to reevaluate what your definition of "stupid high" is. I can't even imagine what sorts of adjectives you'd use for the likes of Zimbabwe, Armenia, Georgia etc. with their 90%+ piracy rates.

 

10 people got killed in constuction site A because someone messed up and 100 people killed in contruction site B because someone made the same mistake.

Yes, many more people died in B but the amount that died in A is still stupid high.

I know that piracy is higher in the other areas but 20% is still a really high number.  Just because NA has the lowest number does not mean that the number is an acceptable amount.

 

Obviously 20% is not a really high number, it's a really low number.  It's as low as it gets, at least for the now.  If the recession ends, it'll drop, because for the most part piracy is related to the number of people who can afford the software they want.

Oh, and your example is terrible.  If a given type of accident could kill 10 or 100 people I'd be happy as can be that it was only ten.  Yeah, people dying isn't exacly a good outcome, but it's better than a lto more people dying any day of the week.

 

I don't think you're getting what I'm telling you.  I'm not saying 10 people dead is as bad as 100 people dead or that 20% is as bad as 50%, I'm just saying 20% is still a really high number.  That is all.

Going back to my bad construction site example, 10 people died at one site and 100 people died at the other.  Going from what you said, you seem to think the 10 people dying is alright because that's as low as it getsThat may be preferable, but it still isn't right.  I think that's where you're getting confused.

I'm not confused, I'm just willing to admit that "what is right" doesn't occur very often in this mixed up, crazy world of ours.  Either you play the hand that's dealt to you or you fold.  Me?  I'll keep playing, thank you very much.

 

What are you even talking about? I'm not trying to argue what's right and wrong, I'm not saying how to fix it, I'm not even going to talk about what kind of scum pirates are, I am just making an obvservation about that 20% number.

Again, all I'm saying is 20% is a really stupid high number.  Again, I realize it's the lowest and the best number of them all, but that still doesn't mean it's a good number.

 

Uhh, you were saying?



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Actually, in that article I only ever hear them refer to PC downloaded software. At MOST that includes retail PC games, correct?

So this article is basically about movies, music, etc. and hardly at all about video games. The farthest it goes with video games is the PC market. It isn't even including consoles if I understand it correctly.