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gameman said:
Phrancheyez said:
gameman said:

 

When you open up a platform like PSN to everyone, it kills the need for a PS3.  Its the combination of Software + hardware that locks users into a closed system. Similar to I tunes + I pod, OSX + Macs, etc. PSN losing PS3 exclusivity is slightly giving up on the PS3.

 

 

Dude, no it's not.  And it doesn't kill any need for a PS3.  No one - I repeat - NO ONE is buying a PS3 just because they're excited to see what the PSN offers.  They might like that it's free, but NO ONE is buying a PS3 just to check out the PSN.  That makes you sound like you have no business even commenting on this.

I'll use the PSN for the same stuff I used to..downloading great games and watching movies.  Looking at trailers for new movies, watching interviews, all the same stuff I was doing before they did this.  I probably won't even use this 'expanded' service much like I don't use Home (And think Home is a waste).  It in no way shape or form giving up on the PS3 - you're dillusional.



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Phrancheyez said:
gameman said:
Phrancheyez said:
gameman said:

 

When you open up a platform like PSN to everyone, it kills the need for a PS3.  Its the combination of Software + hardware that locks users into a closed system. Similar to I tunes + I pod, OSX + Macs, etc. PSN losing PS3 exclusivity is slightly giving up on the PS3.

 

 

Dude, no it's not.  And it doesn't kill any need for a PS3.  No one - I repeat - NO ONE is buying a PS3 just because they're excited to see what the PSN offers.  They might like that it's free, but NO ONE is buying a PS3 just to check out the PSN.  That makes you sound like you have no business even commenting on this.

I'll use the PSN for the same stuff I used to..downloading great games and watching movies.  Looking at trailers for new movies, watching interviews, all the same stuff I was doing before they did this.  I probably won't even use this 'expanded' service much like I don't use Home (And think Home is a waste).  It in no way shape or form giving up on the PS3 - you're dillusional.

 

 No, but people are buying a PS3 for its software and services. Imagine if Apple freed OSX for any computer or if anyone could play Mario games. Part of the reason that PS3 sales are sluggish is indeed because so many of their once exclusive games went multiplat. Exclusive software and services is what has always locked users into a closed format.  If PSN games and services are available to third parties and PC's, then people wont feel obligated to get a PS3. Your probaly thinking of Windows live and Xbox live now. Well , Microsoft has vested interest in both platforms succeeding. microsoft Doesnt mind losing Xbox marketshare to PC marketshare because they make money on both.



2011, XBox 360 and Wii owners will be able to access Sony Home... FTW!

Sony needs more people to wait in line in their online world to bowl, play pool and retro arcade games.



gameman said:
Phrancheyez said:
gameman said:
Phrancheyez said:
gameman said:

 

When you open up a platform like PSN to everyone, it kills the need for a PS3.  Its the combination of Software + hardware that locks users into a closed system. Similar to I tunes + I pod, OSX + Macs, etc. PSN losing PS3 exclusivity is slightly giving up on the PS3.

 

 

Dude, no it's not.  And it doesn't kill any need for a PS3.  No one - I repeat - NO ONE is buying a PS3 just because they're excited to see what the PSN offers.  They might like that it's free, but NO ONE is buying a PS3 just to check out the PSN.  That makes you sound like you have no business even commenting on this.

I'll use the PSN for the same stuff I used to..downloading great games and watching movies.  Looking at trailers for new movies, watching interviews, all the same stuff I was doing before they did this.  I probably won't even use this 'expanded' service much like I don't use Home (And think Home is a waste).  It in no way shape or form giving up on the PS3 - you're dillusional.

 

 No, but people are buying a PS3 for its software and services. Imagine if Apple freed OSX for any computer or if anyone could play Mario games. Part of the reason that PS3 sales are sluggish is indeed because so many of their once exclusive games went multiplat. Exclusive software and services is what has always locked users into a closed format.  If PSN games and services are available to third parties and PC's, then people wont feel obligated to get a PS3. Your probaly thinking of Windows live and Xbox live now. Well , Microsoft has vested interest in both platforms succeeding. microsoft Doesnt mind losing Xbox marketshare to PC marketshare because they make money on both.

They arent talking about offering GoWIII or GT5 on other platforms here.  They are talking about opening up their online network.  Thats all.  The prospect of Flower coming to the PC, or another platform, isnt stopping people from buying a PS3.

 



gameman said:
If PSN becomes "open" to the web, Is Sony giving up on the PS3? Slightly?

 

Huh? Lol I think you misread something.



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As long as we're still getting disc based games then I love it. I'm hoping this means more full games will be coming to PSN. Games are expensive for me here in the Bahamas. I'd just pick up a 500GB HDD on one of my trips to the US and download future games like White Knight Chronicles for the 50-60$ rather than pay 90$ here for a disc if SONY started getting more full games there.

The PS3 already has a download manager, and I can set my system to shut down after installing a current download [after the download AND INSTALL], and my bandwidth isn't too bad at all... I'm already used to downloading Gigs of anime and TV Show episodes. More options is always a plus for me when it comes to software.

EDIT: Wait?? Is this just about having more ways to access the Store??? Cause remote play seems like more than enough to me...



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gameman said:
Phrancheyez said:
gameman said:
Phrancheyez said:
gameman said:

 

When you open up a platform like PSN to everyone, it kills the need for a PS3.  Its the combination of Software + hardware that locks users into a closed system. Similar to I tunes + I pod, OSX + Macs, etc. PSN losing PS3 exclusivity is slightly giving up on the PS3.

 

 

Dude, no it's not.  And it doesn't kill any need for a PS3.  No one - I repeat - NO ONE is buying a PS3 just because they're excited to see what the PSN offers.  They might like that it's free, but NO ONE is buying a PS3 just to check out the PSN.  That makes you sound like you have no business even commenting on this.

I'll use the PSN for the same stuff I used to..downloading great games and watching movies.  Looking at trailers for new movies, watching interviews, all the same stuff I was doing before they did this.  I probably won't even use this 'expanded' service much like I don't use Home (And think Home is a waste).  It in no way shape or form giving up on the PS3 - you're dillusional.

 

 No, but people are buying a PS3 for its software and services. Imagine if Apple freed OSX for any computer or if anyone could play Mario games. Part of the reason that PS3 sales are sluggish is indeed because so many of their once exclusive games went multiplat. Exclusive software and services is what has always locked users into a closed format.  If PSN games and services are available to third parties and PC's, then people wont feel obligated to get a PS3. Your probaly thinking of Windows live and Xbox live now. Well , Microsoft has vested interest in both platforms succeeding. microsoft Doesnt mind losing Xbox marketshare to PC marketshare because they make money on both.

im pretty sure by doing this, sony will have a much larger income than they currently do. this means more content, more games, better games, more exclusives, more FREE ADVERTISING, better everything. this is a win-for-all situation, really.

 



This is not new.

Stringer has been pushing to get the Sony Corp. to work together for years now. He showed a slide all the way back at CES of last year saying that the PSN video store would start first on the PS3, then move to PSP, and other Sony products. The old roadmap showed all Sony products having access to PSN by the end of physical year 2010. I believe we will see all Sony Blu-ray players, and walkmen having access to PSN by the end of this year. We may also see the XBR10, 11, and 12's having PSN as part of their Bravia link system by the end of the year.

I am very interested to see how this all plays out through the rest of this year. I think that they will definatly add music, and music videos directly into the store. Hopefully they will reveal a plan to allow people to stream so many shows/movies a month ala Netflix. If they announce this at E3, along with the new PSP, focused on multimedia, and ease of use, they should be able to get some momentum going. Then with the addition of all Sony BD players getting support, they should be able to make a huge wave this winter. If I was them, this would be the main focus of Sony's marketing this winter, and all through next year.



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gameman said:
If PSN becomes "open" to the web, Is Sony giving up on the PS3? Slightly?

 

If that feeds your inner xbot, thats the case.



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i would hate that i like my games with cases and manuals and stacking them up next to my ps3

i just love the smell of a brand new game case being opened up too



                                                             

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