Hopefully unlikely, that would be terrible. I cant stand AMD products, and I find it unacceptable how they tanked the quality of ATI graphics cards since they took over.

Can you be more specific? AMD's current chips are just as reliable as Intel (if you don't think so then please link) and are priced competitively, and the same for ATI except they aren't having packaging issues.

Im not sure how to be specific on an opinion and link it. =) I've been a computer technician since the days of 486 machines, and have just had a lot of displeasure with AMD systems over the years.

As for ATI's cards, since AMD took over, the drivers have become a lot more questionable in stability and true compatibility, whereas Nvidia has become sort of an industry benchmark for computer gaming. Some engines choke on Ati cards, no matter how powerful they are, where they run smoothly on an Nvidia card. The AMD/ATI hassle has become a thorn in the side of many people leasing game engines.

Please find one news article, developer blog or benchmark that shows that recent AMD or ATI cards or drivers are unstable, "choke", or are otherwise a problem. You won't be able to, because I assure you the problems no longer exist. Indeed, Nvidia is the one causing people leasing game engines issues as they refuse to adopt DirectX 10.1 which ATI has since 2007.

AMD had poor motherboard support in the 486 days because they didn't make their own motherboards. Since they bought ATI their chipsets have been very reliable - I haven't seen a single negative review of one. I have seen plenty stating that Nvidia motherboards run too hot and that, as I linked, Nvidia graphics cards fail due to heat issues.

If you insist, friend. Go to leadwerks.com and check through the support forums. The admin is the creator of the engine. He's run several benchmarks and has tried to get the AMD ATI drivers and hardware to play nice. There's quite a few developers using this engine, and they have to find workarounds to the AMD video card issue. You really shoudn't be so insisting on the issue unless you've checked every source, it just makes you look like one of those Sony Defense Force guys ;)

As for heat issues, please have a look for reviews on anything from the x1600 onward, especially cards with 512 mb. If you need a source, try looking up some reviews on newegg.com, you'll find lots of heat issues for the AMD ATI cards.

Trust me, I'd like to not say such bad things about the cards, I used to be a huge ATI supporter.

Oh please.

Marketplace has rules. Company breaks rules. Marketplace then imposes a fine to punish company.

You rather want they cut the company off the market?

I'd like to see the x86 patents opened up instead of a fine. Currently all x86 makers have to have a cross-license agreement with Intel, which is skewed towards Intel holding all of the cards (e.g. AMD is forbidden to outsource manufacturing, sell out to another company, or be socket-compatible with Intel). So 99% of the consumer CPU market depends on Intel's permission to exist. That's a monopoly.

Soleron - You wanted a scale of the industry dev tools, I gave you one as an example, you dismissed it. At that point, you ended our conversation. You then went on about Nvidia paying developers, but the one I mentioned has no involvment, and probably is unnoticed by Nvidia at this time. Then you went on about the X1600. The X1600 was around in 2006, when AMD first acquired ATI, I said onward from there.

OK, if I take "Leadwerks" seriously, then what exactly has ATI/AMD done wrong? Their driver interface may be difficult to use for developers, but since that only hinders ATI it's not anticompetitive and since they seem to have overcome this and AMD is clearly faster in actual games it doesn't matter to the user. So, to you the customer, it makes no difference.

Review on Newegg are not a reliable source for the heat issues. I can post a review there too; that doesn't make it accurate Perhaps you could link to a news article pointing out widespread failure, or a hardware review site noting issues? I have provided you with both for the Nvidia heat issue.

And, again, some evidence for your "can't stand" position on AMD CPUs or motherboards? You haven't said anything is wrong with them yet.