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Just a quick thought, by trying to beat their rival, Intel was actually being competitive by the very definition of the word. So in reality, they are being fined for competing with their competition (just in case you don't know, the end goal of competition is to beat your rival). I'm not saying that what Intel did was ok or ethical, but to call the behavior 'Anti-competitive' is simply a misnomer. What they are being fined for potentially is for being OVERLY competitive and using illegal business practices to gain an advantage.



Timmah! said:
Just a quick thought, by trying to beat their rival, Intel was actually being competitive by the very definition of the word. So in reality, they are being fined for competing with their competition (just in case you don't know, the end goal of competition is to beat your rival). I'm not saying that what Intel did was ok or ethical, but to call the behavior 'Anti-competitive' is simply a misnomer. What they are being fined for potentially is for being OVERLY competitive and using illegal business practices to gain an advantage.

 

Not really, it's "anti-competitive" because it is a direct attempt to remove their competition from the market.  Businesses must compete on the market, not through deals behind closed doors.



it does seem that the "eu" does like to fine the usa companies a hell of alot more for these practices but if a eu company does it , their fine is very small compared to what m$ got , which was complete bs by the "eu". "eu", is a "anti-usa" group.



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ROBOTECHHEAVEN said:
it does seem that the "eu" does like to fine the usa companies a hell of alot more for these practices but if a eu company does it , their fine is very small compared to what m$ got , which was complete bs by the "eu". "eu", is a "anti-usa" group.


California also fined Microsoft by a large amount (especially considering it's just a state):

http://news.cnet.com/2100-1012_3-1027598.html?tag=fd_top

Is California also a anti-USA group? 

 



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Dodece said:
@NJ5

I could be more precise most certainly, but this is a discussion I have had many times before on many forums. To be brutally honest its a massive time sink. One I honestly cannot afford today, and more to the point is it really worth it to educate one forum member on a painfully obvious point. Which is governments are prone to corruption, or more specifically to aiding and abetting unfair trade practices on behalf of their citizens.

I suppose if your sincerely interested into what I am alluding to. Beyond the obvious Google searches. I think you will find the most devious practices in the laws governing standards. Basically you can word the standards to prevent the products of one region as compared to another even though the products are virtually identical. You can mandate minimum sizes, shading, curvature, and so forth. None of which actually effect the quality of product. Though that five percent difference in curvature can ensure that American exporters in Brazil cannot bring their product to market, while Dutch exporters in Indonesia can.

That is where you will be able to follow the unabated corruption. Just find some convoluted standards laws, and figure out who benefits most from them. From there you can follow the wheel greasing. Be warned your going to be disgusted if you go this far. You really cannot be naive at this point. Then you will see why some people will have such views on the European Union.

Honestly I know all governments are corrupt, or at least corrupted. Though they are also pretty good at keeping shit convoluted so by all means go wandering through the catalogs of numbers and numbers of numbers.

I think you're wasting your breath, Dodece.  The current fad is USA=Corrupt, EU=Good.  It doesn't matter that EU farmers are dramatically protected against imports from US farmers, etc., and that the US government isn't levying massive fines against EU companies for being anti-competitive with each other (does it really hurt EU citizens if an EU-based company isn't suffering from Intel's behavior?  No, it's just another tax).  I'm afraid it's not popular to use facts to actually explain anything anymore.  Everyone has an axe to grind, and they just love to see the other guy get it.  Bring on the gladiators!

 

 



NJ5 said:
ROBOTECHHEAVEN said:
it does seem that the "eu" does like to fine the usa companies a hell of alot more for these practices but if a eu company does it , their fine is very small compared to what m$ got , which was complete bs by the "eu". "eu", is a "anti-usa" group.


California also fined Microsoft by a large amount (especially considering it's just a state):

http://news.cnet.com/2100-1012_3-1027598.html?tag=fd_top

Is California also a anti-USA group

 

That's been pretty obvious for the past few years.

 



@crumas2: The EU is supposed to regulate the European market. So when a company engages in anti-competitive behavior with European companies (remember that retailers and other computer companies are involved in this), the law says an investigation must happen.

It also happens that this behavior from Intel hurts European consumers, by denying them access to the competing products from AMD. Not only that but it also means Intel could keep their products at a higher price by eliminating the competition from the European market.

So tell me again, why should the EU ignore what Intel did here?

 



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