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mike_intellivision on 11 May 2009

There are two questions here.

The first is whether or not Sony will be supporting the PS3 at retail in 2012. My guess on that one would be yes. Sony has generally supported two consoles simultaneously. So even if the PS4 is out, the PS3 will still be around in some form. This would especially be the case if a slim-line version could be created.

The second is whether or not retailers will still have the PS3. My guess is also yes -- so long as the first is true. If Sony wants to be out there, it will continue to provide the support to retailers to carry the product. So long as there is used software to sell, Gamestop will have a small section for it.

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Jo21 on 11 May 2009

i see the other way... around, sony have it first parties to feed the ps3.
and it have more space for price cuts.



Squilliam on 11 May 2009
NoCtiS_NoX said:
Squilliam said:
NoCtiS_NoX said:
Squilliam said:
NoCtiS_NoX said:
Squilliam said:
CrazzyMan said:
@Squilliam, after some time, GC was selling for 99$, BUT this price didn`t help.
x360 is already a CHEAP console.
The pricecut, wont help much, since it`s already at MASS market price.

While, PS3 is yet to enter to that 299$ mass market price.
Also, PS3 game base is growing fatser, than x360. that`s why PS3 will be a MUST HAVE console. It will have too MANY GREAT AAA games, to be ignored.

You're making some serious assumptions here. Theres no assurance than the PS3 will reach the $299 price point this year. Its what you would like to happen, but its not assured that it will happen. Also even if the PS3 reaches $299 theres always the extremely likely possibility that the Xbox 360 will reach the $149 and $199 price points at the same time. A $299 PS3 is relatively more expensive than a $199 Premium than it is now at the current prices.

 

 

Aren't you doing the same thing? LOL!

Microsoft stated that they wanted to secure their second place position. I have seen no such specific statements from Sony to contradict such a statement. Also when they are making money its easier to believe that they can afford a price cut, especially compared to a company which hasn't made any money so far this generation.

 

But you still made an assumptions. We'll have to wait and see, right?

We never know maybe by that time, PS3 overtook 360 already and gain profit at the same time or the 360 increased the gap by 15-18 million.

EDIT: I am talking about the worlwide sales not American sales.

You're using poor english! But yeah we still do have to wait and see. Though I think my position is more sane than most who wear PS3 related items in their signatures.

Though local sales do infer local support, for example the PS2 is getting far more support in Japan than any other country for example. So a console could be pulled from one market hypothetically but not another.

 

English is not my native language. Sorry for the poor english. Did I use wrong grammars? I would appreciate it if you correct me for my wrong grammar.

OT: I agree (bold part) but it still early to make an assumptions that PS3 will be discontinued before 2012 in America.          I believe that there is still alot people that doesn't have a PS3 or a 360 or a Wii.

Great games and a pricecut will do wonders for the PS3.

 

Its ok, I was just making a joke. You would say "An assumption" 'An' implies one assumption. If you wanted to, you could say "many assumptions" to say that I was making more than one assumption. Also Grammar never has an 's', you never have more than one grammar for example.

I was more countering the assumption that the PS3 will be around for 10 years with a vastly different counter-point.

 



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Rpruett on 11 May 2009

Of course it will still be around in 2012. The PS3 will last if for no other reason other than simply because it can double as an excellent Blu-Ray player. Sony will continue to sell it as they would any other multi-media device.



Squilliam on 11 May 2009
mike_intellivision said:
There are two questions here.

The first is whether or not Sony will be supporting the PS3 at retail in 2012. My guess on that one would be yes. Sony has generally supported two consoles simultaneously. So even if the PS4 is out, the PS3 will still be around in some form. This would especially be the case if a slim-line version could be created.

The second is whether or not retailers will still have the PS3. My guess is also yes -- so long as the first is true. If Sony wants to be out there, it will continue to provide the support to retailers to carry the product. So long as there is used software to sell, Gamestop will have a small section for it.

Mike from Morgantown

If the deals Sony has for the memory controller/ram technology, the Cell processor and the GPU are too expensive and prevent them from dropping the price too much, they may have no other choice but to abandon the console when a new generation comes out. The console uses a lot of custom technology and they pay royalties to quite a few different companies/consortiums. Of course up until that date the 10 year plan will still talked about by their executives, you can't rely on any company to tell you anything which is against their best interests to tell you.

 



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loy310 on 11 May 2009

LOL... Pre E3 damage control.



BHR-3 on 11 May 2009
Squilliam said:

Thats what I believe. Does anyone have any good reason to counter that without referencing a 10 year plan?

Retailers and consumers decide how long something remains on the shelves. So if there are next generation consoles competing for shelf space, that shelf space is only going to come out of the lowest selling consoles alotment. It happens every time a generation switch over occours, and there has never been a precedent where 2-3 next generation and 2-3 current generation consoles have been sold at the same time at retail. So why would we face anything different if the same basic reasons behind this are the same? Since the PS3 is the lowest selling console, it will be the first to get kicked to the curb.

 

Ha ha HA ha

ur thinking that the PS3 will remain with its current low performance sales wise is wat ur problem is

the PS3 will be around longer than most think once it gets to lower price points to wat the 360 is currently at and even lower like 150$ sales will EXPLODE they will EXPLODE this year cause i think that the PS3 will be priced at 300$ b4 the years ends.

The consoles that have a better chance of not selling years from now are the ones that inferior, PS3 has a blu ray player free online and rechargeable battery built into the DS3 and more power potential  for devs all those factors cant be said about the other consoles. 

Wen the new gen begins wenever it is the new consoles will be priced at 300-400+ can u imagine a costumer going into a gamming store and seeing a 400+$ console next to a 150$ PS3 that has  blu ray and by then a remarkable game libary it will be like the ps2 vs 360 wen the 360 came out and we all know who sold more than



                                                             

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NoCtiS_NoX on 11 May 2009
Squilliam said:
NoCtiS_NoX said:
Squilliam said:
NoCtiS_NoX said:
Squilliam said:
NoCtiS_NoX said:
Squilliam said:
CrazzyMan said:
@Squilliam, after some time, GC was selling for 99$, BUT this price didn`t help.
x360 is already a CHEAP console.
The pricecut, wont help much, since it`s already at MASS market price.

While, PS3 is yet to enter to that 299$ mass market price.
Also, PS3 game base is growing fatser, than x360. that`s why PS3 will be a MUST HAVE console. It will have too MANY GREAT AAA games, to be ignored.

You're making some serious assumptions here. Theres no assurance than the PS3 will reach the $299 price point this year. Its what you would like to happen, but its not assured that it will happen. Also even if the PS3 reaches $299 theres always the extremely likely possibility that the Xbox 360 will reach the $149 and $199 price points at the same time. A $299 PS3 is relatively more expensive than a $199 Premium than it is now at the current prices.

 

 

Aren't you doing the same thing? LOL!

Microsoft stated that they wanted to secure their second place position. I have seen no such specific statements from Sony to contradict such a statement. Also when they are making money its easier to believe that they can afford a price cut, especially compared to a company which hasn't made any money so far this generation.

 

But you still made an assumptions. We'll have to wait and see, right?

We never know maybe by that time, PS3 overtook 360 already and gain profit at the same time or the 360 increased the gap by 15-18 million.

EDIT: I am talking about the worlwide sales not American sales.

You're using poor english! But yeah we still do have to wait and see. Though I think my position is more sane than most who wear PS3 related items in their signatures.

Though local sales do infer local support, for example the PS2 is getting far more support in Japan than any other country for example. So a console could be pulled from one market hypothetically but not another.

 

English is not my native language. Sorry for the poor english. Did I use wrong grammars? I would appreciate it if you correct me for my wrong grammar.

OT: I agree (bold part) but it still early to make an assumptions that PS3 will be discontinued before 2012 in America.          I believe that there is still alot people that doesn't have a PS3 or a 360 or a Wii.

Great games and a pricecut will do wonders for the PS3.

 

Its ok, I was just making a joke. You would say "An assumption" 'An' implies one assumption. If you wanted to, you could say "many assumptions" to say that I was making more than one assumption. Also Grammar never has an 's', you never have more than one grammar for example.

I was more countering the assumption that the PS3 will be around for 10 years with a vastly different counter-point.

 

Thanks! I really appreciate it.

So to summarize what Im trying to say. Only time will tell. nuff said

 



Squilliam on 11 May 2009
BHR-3 said:
Squilliam said:

Thats what I believe. Does anyone have any good reason to counter that without referencing a 10 year plan?

Retailers and consumers decide how long something remains on the shelves. So if there are next generation consoles competing for shelf space, that shelf space is only going to come out of the lowest selling consoles alotment. It happens every time a generation switch over occours, and there has never been a precedent where 2-3 next generation and 2-3 current generation consoles have been sold at the same time at retail. So why would we face anything different if the same basic reasons behind this are the same? Since the PS3 is the lowest selling console, it will be the first to get kicked to the curb.

 

Ha ha HA ha

ur thinking that the PS3 will remain with its current low performance sales wise is wat ur problem is

the PS3 will be around longer than most think once it gets to lower price points to wat the 360 is currently at and even lower like 150$ sales will EXPLODE they will EXPLODE this year cause i think that the PS3 will be priced at 300$ b4 the years ends.

The consoles that have a better chance of not selling years from now are the ones that inferior, PS3 has a blu ray player free online and rechargeable battery built into the DS3 and more power potential  for devs all those factors cant be said about the other consoles. 

Wen the new gen begins wenever it is the new consoles will be priced at 300-400+ can u imagine a costumer going into a gamming store and seeing a 400+$ console next to a 150$ PS3 that has  blu ray and by then a remarkable game libary it will be like the ps2 vs 360 wen the 360 came out and we all know who sold more than

Yet the two consoles which sell the most use AA batteries, one hardly has online to speak of and the other has the largest online community on a console yet, neither have blu ray and yet the console which comes with Blu Ray doesn't come with either a remote or an HD cable.

Well, how about trying that $150 PS3 against a $250 Wii or a $299 Xbox evolution Arcade? Also the consoles will certainly be able to outperform the PS3 significantly by that time in a noticeable way even laymen can see.

 

 



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S.T.A.G.E. on 11 May 2009
Squilliam said:

Thats what I believe. Does anyone have any good reason to counter that without referencing a 10 year plan?

Retailers and consumers decide how long something remains on the shelves. So if there are next generation consoles competing for shelf space, that shelf space is only going to come out of the lowest selling consoles alotment. It happens every time a generation switch over occours, and there has never been a precedent where 2-3 next generation and 2-3 current generation consoles have been sold at the same time at retail. So why would we face anything different if the same basic reasons behind this are the same? Since the PS3 is the lowest selling console, it will be the first to get kicked to the curb.

 

*Response to the bold* I wish I could believe what you're saying Squiliam, but Sony undermined the market and moneyhatted retailers to help Blu Ray survive. How could the PS3 not last? Look at how much Sony spent just so Blu Ray could stay in the market. The Gamecube sold a low amount of consoles, but it still sold where I live.