mmm hmmm look at you buddy squilliam at the top of your frendslist. an open and honest troll. Btw you proved my point.

Sorry mods? Way to "To curry favor with in an obsequious manner".

what? No i'm apologizing to the mods for acting like this because I hate petty forum fights but the fact that you refer to people that live in flyover states as dumb Wal-Mart shopping idiots who are too dumb to realize the PS3 is Gods gift to man is the straw that broke the camels back so they say. And how did I prove your point in anything? Because your trying to call me a 360 fanboy when I'm actually a fan of every system including handhelds? Face it your a troll whos been banned twice already and still haven't learned your lesson. Grow up and stop filling this awesome sight with garbage. Name me one legitimate post you've ever made that wasn't either PS3 praise or 360 hate?

You're having a meltdown because what I said is true and yes I voted for Obama.

Megadude I'm not going to waste any more time on this pointless conversation. You refuse to actually discuss anything and continue to flame. Either way I'm done here good luck to you and hopefully someday you'll realize starting crap over the internet just to defend a toy is probably not the most important thing in life.

Later.

I made my original post like that intentionally.

Anyway, if you look at this graph here, as the market tipped against the Gamecube and reached saturation the sales of the console itself dried up by the fourth year on the market. Once the next generation console came out, sales were essentially dead as you can see by the fifth holiday spike on the graph which was when the Xbox 360 came out. You can also see how the Xbox 360 is pulling away from the PS3 still.

With the current market as it stands the Xbox 360 and Wii are both chewing through the market at a very fast rate. The Wii is outselling the PS2 and the Xbox 360 is outselling the Xbox 1. Both are grabbing portions of the old PS2 and overall market share to themselves. As the market approaches overall saturation the console manufacturers are keyed up to releasing a new console to begin a new product life cycle. So the decline I predicted for the PS3 leading to its withdrawel on the market in 2012 is caused both by market saturation causing sales to decline and a new generation of consoles fighting for space on the market which would push the weakest competitors out first.

Beyond 2011 the Xbox 360 is better set up of the two to offer a budget console experience which the PS2 has provided up until now. Microsoft doesn't have to pay relatively expensive royalties for things like Blu Ray and they don't even have to provision the console with a HDD. This means that as the PS2 is $100, so can the Xbox 360 Arcade easily take that place eventually. Also from my understanding they have a far better royalty arangement in that they control the I.P. to their console whilst Sony does not for the Cell and RSX. This means they can easily run into the same hurdles Microsoft faced with the Xbox 1.

It isn't the end and it's even arguable 2012 is the end of the current long count.

 I didn't understand the Fly Over u mentioned......anyways in a nutshell PS3 is going to dethrone 360.

In a nutshell, this will never happen in America.  Even if the PS3 doubled the 360's sales from here on out it would take 5 years to break even.  5 years of double the 360's sales each week.  Not going to happen.

let me tell you something as someone who works at retail. The PS3 is doing just fine. Yea, it is selling less then the Wii and 360.Yet it is also the best selling console of such a high price tag of all time. Any other would have diminished already. PS3 is still competitive is game selection, features, and so on. As time goes on, prices will fall, and the PS3 will start hitting mainstream price range where it is affordable.

You underestimate the power of brand name, and the power of Sony's Will. What other console could outsell a console only a little over half it's price?Damn sure not an xbox or Nintendo product. Sony does want to win, but they also wanted to do something new and bigger then last gen. Sacrifices needed to be made. They will suffer lower sales NOW to only recoup them in the FUTURE!

I suspect Wii and 360 to decrease in popularity very quickly over the next few years as the PS3 slowly keeps creeping it's foot into the door. Sony has given it the hardware to stand the test of time.

It has to last 10 years(yes I said it) because there simply is no going back at this point. What is Sony suppose to do?Take it off the market? And do what exactly, make a more inferior sequel? I think not, and to think so is purely delusional. Yes, as you said, retailers keep what is making them money and shelf space is limited etc. But every PS3 sold makes them the MOST money and regardless of the 360 selling more, it only barely does so over the PS3. A $500 console selling anywhere near a $200 system's numbers is great for retail.