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From Times Online
May 7, 2009
Nintendo's Wii success may begin to wane
Leo Lewis, Asia Business Correspondent

Nintendo said today that its fiscal 2008 profits were the strongest it had ever recorded, but admitted it would struggle to repeat the performance in the current year as sales of its two main games consoles peak and foreign exchange turmoil hits the bottom line.

The gloomy forecasts triggered an hour of selling on the Osaka Exchange where Nintendo’s stock is listed – completing a poor run that has now seen the shares shed about half their value over the past year. Brokers at Nomura said that what was once the Japanese market’s most attractive stock had now lost its allure.

Nintendo reported operating profits of $5.5 billion for the 12 months to March 31. However, full-year income was well below consensus forecasts and the company said that earnings could suffer a 12 per cent decline in the current year – a worse contraction than brokers had expected and a sign that Japan’s most profitable company has not escaped the effects of the worldwide consumer spending slump.

The company is now predicting flat sales of the Wii console in fiscal 2009 and a 3 per cent contraction in sales of the DS – a forecast that forced one of the top industry analysts to admit that his forecasts of growth had been wrong.

Analysts warned today of the Kyoto company’s urgent need for a “dazzling” pipeline of new games and said that the company would now face intensifying pressure to describe its plans for a next generation version of the Wii console. Games industry experts said that the market’s immediate view on Nintendo, could now hinge on just two words: Princess Zelda.

Hiroshi Kamide, of KBC Securities in Tokyo, said that the weak-looking pipeline of Wii games means there is a lot of attention on the next installment of the Zelda franchise and when it is likely to be released. The series has produced a string of extraordinarily lucrative blockbusters for Nintendo and the announcement that the latest installment may be in the shops by Christmas could be just what is needed to maintain momentum behind the Wii.


The company is known for issuing hyper-conservative forecasts, only to triumphantly exceed them later in the year. Bulls on the stock – including analysts at CLSA, believe that Nintendo’s main difficulties are not dwindling popularity of either the Wii or DS consoles, but foreign exchange fluctuations.

But there is still growing impatience among many investors for Nintendo to come out with the next game that can really drive hardware sales. The forthcoming Wii Sports Resort does not, on early presentations, look capable of being that game, and Wii Music has looked weak next to the hugely popular Rock Band and Guitar Hero series on rival consoles.

All eyes, said one Tokyo fund manager, will anyway be turned to Friday’s presentation by the company – an event where Nintendo has traditionally bludgeoned investors with a lurid montage of teasers for forthcoming games. Most recent versions of that presentation, though, have left many observers underwhelmed: the once seemingly boundless possibilities offered by the Wii’s innovative control system appear to be reaching their limits and the console itself is beginning to look distinctly underpowered compared with Microsoft’s Xbox 360 and Sony’s Playstation3.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/technology/article6241331.ece

WOW... Zelda is now a system seller?



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alfredofroylan said:

WOW... Zelda is now a system seller?

Actually, yes it is, and a pretty big one at that.

The problem is, the Wii already has a Zelda, so another release will see diminishing returns...

On the other hand, that Zelda was also available on the Gamecube, so there may still be a handful of people who would buy a Wii just to play a new Zelda. That figure may even reach as high as fifteen, but I don't want to be too speculative.

 



so. they already in first. they have already made more money than sony and micrsoft combined. they are going to come in first either way.



For none of the reasons listed in this article, I really want a proper Wii-Zelda with the OoT/TP art theme and story style to be released this year.



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At first glance, this article seems to reveal the flaw in Nintendo's marketing plan: That because they only announce games a few months before release, people assume nothing is coming.

But this article also reveals the flip side. Because Wii Sports Resort was announced almost a year ago, it's considered hum-drum and unimportant.

So is there a happy medium for Nintendo here? Or are they just going to get criticized no matter what they do?



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I dunno, there's just so many things glaringly wrong with this article that it's hard to take it with anything but a grain of salt. I just try to remember that all the "experts" never gave the Wii a shot in hell at the start, so why bother listening to them now.



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The more i read and follow news, the more useless it appears. Ten years back i had a good belief that the media (media as a whole) was worth something. You know: pursuit of truth and stuff. Now i only see their incompetence and shallowness. Everywhere. It's just a business, perhaps always was.



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famousringo said:
At first glance, this article seems to reveal the flaw in Nintendo's marketing plan: That because they only announce games a few months before release, people assume nothing is coming.

But this article also reveals the flip side. Because Wii Sports Resort was announced almost a year ago, it's considered hum-drum and unimportant.

So is there a happy medium for Nintendo here? Or are they just going to get criticized no matter what they do?

There is a happy medium, and we've seen it pretty often in the past year. Brawl and Wii Fit were both covered extensively and positively by their respective target mediums, despite the fact that both of them were announced a year or more in advance.

The thing is, media people are all the same: all they want information that interests their readers/viewers. Staying silent on a game until the last second is inconvenient for them because it gives them less information to cover before you make your announcment. Since they can't keep feeding their audience new information, the media becomes frustrated (you are, after all, making it impossible for them to do their job).

Brawl and Wii Fit had Nintendo show a few cards early on, so the media had something to grab onto. They then slipped out new information on a steady basis, so the media had more stuff to talk about and pass on. By contrast, the media can't talk about Nintendo's lineup because it only knows about five or six titles, and it can't talk about Resort anymore because all the information we have about it is almost a year old.

I actually sympathize with them, for once. I seriously think Nintendo needs to rethink at least some of its media relations; they're not managing them very well right now, and while the gaming media's power is actually rather miniscule, the frustration appears to be bleeding into the mainstream media, and that can spell problems with investors.

 



The Wii will probably have two more Zelda games.The twilight princess does not really count since it is basically a Gamecube port.