goddog said:
sony sold all of its stake it the fabrication/manufacturing of cell |
it sold the fabrics... but they can still make cell processor if they want.
actually they are doing a multi core mult spu one now.
pbroy said:
Toshiba made HD DVD. Blu-ray is a new tech that lots of companies want to make money on. The companies making the players don't want to price it too cheap so that they don't make much money from it. That's one of the main reasons why Toshiba was the only company making the HD DVD players. They were selling it for so cheap that other companies wouldn't make a profit trying to make hardware themselves. The same goes for the movies. They want to price it so that they can make considerably more money from it than the DVD version. |
I think he's referring to the development of the cell. Which toshiba was involved in.
Cell and XDR memory is keeping the price high. The actual Blu-ray drive assembly is not too much now, compared to launch.
"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY." --Hermann Goering, leading Nazi party member, at the Nuremberg War Crime Trials
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Jo21 said:
it sold the fabrics... but they can still make cell processor if they want. actually they are doing a multi core mult spu one now. |
sony has to pay others to have them manufactured now, they no longer have any cell production facilities in their ownership
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| Jo21 said: yeah sony made with ibm and toshiba. and everything in the ps3 is expensive.. i think GPU may be the cheapest part. it have a gloss black case = expensive. all come with HDD= expensive. 1 ppu 3.2ghz +7 3.2ghz spu processor. 9 threads. XDR 3.2Ghz main ram = VERY expensive. nvidia RSX = its should be the cheapest to make its should be 45nm by now. wifi and bluetooth = not expensive but cost extra $$. and blu ray drive, it diode alone its over 50$ etc. |
you have no idea wtf your talking about do you?
HDD expensive? Its a flipping 80GB 2.5" HDD. Its costs less then NewEgg's $35 80GB 2.5" drives because Sony buys in bulk. If the HDD costs Sony $20 per PS3 I'd be shocked.
Cell Processor probably costs about $110 each.
RSX GPU maybe $40?
XDR Ram, if they havent switched to using two sticks of XDR2 ram yet, $40 maybe
Casing isnt expensive but does cost like $20
CPU/GPU heatsink costs like $25
OK so far cost from my guestimate is $255. Now add in the following final pieces of hardware.
Blu-ray drive - $140
Motherboard w/ wifi built in - $30
So the PS3 costs Sony about $425 to make give or take.
So my guess is Sony isnt losing much anymore in terms of PS3 sales. Its still painful to lose the cash but they are close to breaking even. If the RSX or Cell shrinks one more time, Blu-ray drive cost drops again, or they switch to two sticks of XDR2 ram they should be able to break even before the end of the year.
No matter what they will make profit.
| Brun2003 said: I just don't get why the ps3 is losing money. From everything i can find it is basically because Blu Ray is so expensive. Blu Ray has been the market for 3 years now and it has come down in price but why not more. A standard blu ray player is around 200 but with how fast technology advances why are the blu ray components not much cheaper by now. How many revisions have we had with processors and hard drive sizes in the last three years now? How is it that it doesn't cost like 300 or less to make the ps3. These machines are being made in Asia it's not like they are made here in the us were have minimum and benefits to pay to employees. Does any know why it is not cheaper to build a video game system. Blu Ray is great but its not holograms walking in the living room its just bigger storage space for hd content. Please if anyone knows anything about why it is so expensive let us know. |
Wow. It's like this post time-travelled here from 2007.
If you're going back any time soon let me know, I'd like to put some money on the Giants.
@ssj12, what kind of heat sink are you inferring to? When I worked on Cisco Motherboards the heat sinks were usually cheap black plastic.
| sethnintendo said: @ssj12, what kind of heat sink are you inferring to? When I worked on Cisco Motherboards the heat sinks were usually cheap black plastic. |
Sony uses copper heatsinks with last time I heard 2 or 3 heatpipes. They dont use cheap shit like Cisco's.
| sethnintendo said: @ssj12, what kind of heat sink are you inferring to? When I worked on Cisco Motherboards the heat sinks were usually cheap black plastic. |
plastic heat sinks? seriously?
Remind me never to buy Cisco.
Proud Sony Rear Admiral
Well actually if I recall correctly they were metallic but they didn't seem too expensive. Sorry for the misinformation.
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