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famousringo said:
Noobie said:
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ChichiriMuyo said:

It won't be $800, it'll be $250. Essentially all they have to do is make a second generation Apple TV and the are good to go. They really have most of the work done for them, and even a vast amount of the infrastructure is in place. They just need a few tweaks and tune-ups to their existing product line and they'll be able to put out a casual-ready console the delivers both movies and gaming in no time.

Really,  if you look at Apple TV as it is right now the specs are very similar to the Wii and the cost is already sub $250.  Should they release a slightly more powerful update with added gaming features they will be ready to do battle in console arena, and unlike Sony and MS they can afford to only sell a few million units because they won't be going for an over-the-top system.  The focus is on the casuals, where the money is, and Apple isn't going to screw that up.

This. 

I've always maintained Wii's success would lure others into the market and everyone claims the cost of admission is too high.   Total poppycock!!  The 'cost of admission' is only as high as you set it for yourself.   MS & Sony use a lose leading stategy that costs them billions.  Nintendo makes money on every console sold and game sales are gravy on top for them.

By merely attaching games to Apple TV service, much like games on iPhone/iTouch, Apple effectively plops themselves into the market with very little added expense to themselves (unless they do buy EA) and without having to be dependant on game sales to be profitable either (because it's still primarily based on tv/movies).

but from where the games will come?

 

Unless you believe the EA buyout rumour, the same place iPhone games come from. Amateur developers, PC shareware developers, and budget ports from large third parties, at first. Big budget development comes after the platform proves viable.

How big is EA? until or unless u don't have half a dozen launch title, and steady stream afterwords, i m not sure u r going to survive. 

The iphone is not very successful as a game machine..

http://www.bruceongames.com/2009/05/04/is-the-iphone-game-bubble-about-to-burst/

Is the iPhone game bubble about to burst?

Could the huge bubble of iPhone game success be about to burst? We have seen many times in the history of the video game industry that customers are very keen to steal the games we have worked on rather than pay for what they have had. This has already destroyed the viability of many gaming platforms. The iPhone could be next.

Basically the App Store mechanism gives no protection to what it hosts, so anyone else can host whatever they want elsewhere and allow free downloads. And this is what is happening, you can get any App you want for the iPhone for free. Up until now most iPhone users were unaware of this so continued paying for their Apps, but the word is getting round very quickly. So now TAG Games are saying that two thirds of users of their game Car Jack Streets have been thieves who have not paid for the game.

Once this particular genie is out of the bottle it is just about impossible to put him back in. So pretty soon, as the word spreads, iPhone App piracy will be in the 90+% that it is for boxed PC games. Which will destroy the business model, just as it has for so many gaming platforms before, and so people will stop developing for the iPhone. Which will damage the iPhone as a gaming platform.



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Don't read Bruce on game. Ever. The guy doesn't know the first thing about what he is talking about and has been proven wrong over and over again.



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Wow, you just cited bruceongames.

Wow.

I remember when he used that bubblegum graphic for the Wii. What a surprise that he would have negative things to say about another Microsoft competitor.



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famousringo said:
Wow, you just cited bruceongames.

Wow.

I remember when he used that bubblegum graphic for the Wii. What a surprise that he would have negative things to say about another Microsoft competitor.

Never knew he is so infamous. i will keep that in mind next time.



hmmm. I thought Apple was more looking into producing their own chips. At least that is what I read a few days ago.



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I've been hearing rumors about Apple working on a console for yeaaars.. not gonna happen




8th gen predictions. (made early 2014)
PS4: 60-65m
WiiU: 30-35m
X1: 30-35m
3DS: 80-85m
PSV: 15-20m

if apple is dumb enough to enter the console market , it will bomb very hard and apple will lose alot of money. they should release a new version of the iphone with actual buttons and dual analog sticks and then go after the big 3rd party dev's, then maybe the iphone could be called a gaming handheld. because as it is right now, its a bad gaming system.



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I would love to see it just for the reactions, especially the inevitable "it's not really a console" or "not competing with the other consoles", like what's happening now with the iPhone.



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ROBOTECHHEAVEN said:
if apple is dumb enough to enter the console market , it will bomb very hard and apple will lose alot of money. they should release a new version of the iphone with actual buttons and dual analog sticks and then go after the big 3rd party dev's, then maybe the iphone could be called a gaming handheld. because as it is right now, its a bad gaming system.

 

The iPhone almost feels like a Wii without the Nintendo games, sure there are some gems but they're few and there's nothing truly spectacular. What really benefits it is the convenience. In that sense it's a really good product, and it would definitely be major if Apple themselves started creating more games.

However with the kind of support it's been getting, I believe the iPhone is gonna be just fine. It pains me to say this, because it feels akward knowing that Apple is a technology company, and not an entertainment company like Sony and Nintendo when this is an entertainment industry. But I'm sensing this will be the new leader in the portable gaming space without setting a single goal or genuine idea for improvement in gaming in anyway whatsoever, and with no history. It's really quite ridiculous and not fun in the end, but I believe that will eventually be the case(it kinda already is).



good luck to them. I don't see it succeeding if it's really a home console



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