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Ausfalcon on 07 May 2009
MikeB said:

"XraalE" also known as "KennyR" is a loud mouth hot tempered individual (and MorphOS supporter). Someone described him as following: "KennyR - a well known MorphOS guerilla marketing puppet, who after being slammed on forums for many months, finally noticed that he no longer can stand it and gave up. He still contributes to some forums, but gives nothing of substance at all."

He got banned at our main rival sister site Amiga.org for insulting too many people (he did so on nearly all the Amiga forums, thus he was banned from AmigaWorld as well). But from his perspective:

XraalE:

"> redrumloa wrote:
> You are so obsessed with Wayne's alleged anger, you cannot even see your
> own. I give up Kenny, enjoy your rage.

 

So since you want to quote folks from your Amiga past to try to minimize what others from your Amiga past have said I decided to do a little digging.  So above you use redrumloa's (a mod at Amiga.org) opinion of XraalE to try to discredit what XraalE said about you.

Funny though, redrumloa dosen't hold you in any high regard either.  In fact, here is a thread about you abusing moderator status at Amigaworld.net in regard to his account and private info such as his ip address.

The lesson here, I think, be careful what you quote for the sake of quick convenience.  This thread is from 2005:

http://moobunny.dreamhosters.com/cgi/mbthread.pl/amiga/expand/119722



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Dgc1808 on 07 May 2009

You're late to the party.



4 ≈ One

nightsurge on 07 May 2009


Clearly we "never quote you or link you" when I think we've linked you multiple times in this thread alone and tons more on the 360 DVD limit is 6.8GB thread.


And there was nothing malicious

Nothing malicious, no, but misinformation and stealth trolling, yes.  Oh wait, you did directly insult about 4 people so yes, malicious as well.

My technical perspectives some people were upset about were backed up by 3rd party sources

You never backed anything up.  You included sources for "Toshiba DVD drives because all 12x/16x DVD drives operate similarly"  Making a completely wrong assumption and offering up information that supported your wants but didn't actually apply to what was being discussed.  That is exactly what you do every time.  Offer sources that either don't apply to the actual topic or that can't be verified because you simply quote them without any link to the source, or my personal favorite, you quote emails you received. 

I have absolutely no financial stake in anything Amiga nor Sony PS3. Yet you provide no evidence to the contrary, yet continue to make allegations.

So you are saying that you never intended to sell PS3's as computers via your "Fun Computing" company, nor did you attempt to negotiate the use of Amiga OS4.x on PS3 hardware which would undoubtedly have lead to your personal profit?

My wall is starting to fill with links of it now.


I doubt this will change something. It should be easy to find some XBox 360 fans to request Sony be boycotted or in the past have a few vivid MorphOS fans support the idea of AmigaOS4.x to be discontinued in favour of MorphOS. That's in the nature of fanboys.

Very nice.  In case you haven't noticed, there's more than "360 fans" making the claims.  Their are PS3 and Wii fans who have noticed you as well.  Also, nice try at labeling us fanboys when your undying and continuous support for the PS3 and Amiga are truly epic in the fanboy stand.  It's understandable though, because your fanboy-ness could get you some coin if Amiga gets on PS3.

 

 



rover on 07 May 2009

People that think that the Amiga OS is going to make any sort of resurgence are as deluded as PS3 fans who think that SONY cares about anything more than their money.

The Amiga OS indeed. Linux just called asking you to kiss their ass - as they thinkg Linux is the third place winner. :)

Hang on, is there some kind of plan for SONY to monetize the Amiga OS?

...this thread is so... much... fun!



Thechalkblock on 07 May 2009
Carl2291 said:
I thought it was to piss SONY off

 

lol



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Esa-Petteri on 08 May 2009

Microsoft entered the console wars to take over your livingrooms. It will happen, pretty soon. Cool. :)



Ausfalcon on 08 May 2009
liquidninja said:

These people seem to be the only ones that even remotely get it.

 100 points

RolStoppable said:

The goal of PlayStation always was to replace PCs. Kutaragi saw Microsoft as their biggest competition even before they entered the market with the Xbox. The PS3 comes closest to the original vision of Kutaragi, i.e. gaming only being a part of the system and not even necessarily the main draw of the console.

If thats the goal from the Sony perspective they really did not do a good job of showing how indeed the PS3 can be a PC.

http://us.fixstars.com/products/ydl/

I've been baffled since this 3rd party partner came out with YD Linux for it why Sony did not push that feature more and strengthen the partnership with Terrasoft (now Fixstars).  Most PS3 owners don't know about this option, let alone many in the market for a PC and/or gaming console.

 



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Most anticipated game:  Dragon Age Origins (PC)

Scoobes on 08 May 2009
Ausfalcon said:
Scoobes said:

 

But I doubt many TV manufacturers will have the a game streaming system built in until OnLive or equivalent services take off. Maybe Sony could have the capacity to bring out Playstation TVs but I doubt many of the others would and I think the time scale could be long than 1 generation. This means either having to buy extra hardware (controllers/waggle + some sort of signal converter) or just streaming to PC (just the converter) until such a time as Playstation Bravia/ X-Box (Toshiba or any other TV manufacturer) type TVs come out. I mean, we still use set top boxes for extra channels etc. over freeview.

 

I'm very interested in seeing what OnLive will do.  I heard its been perceptible though that it streams a bit though.  And that assessment was shared by a tech writer before the service even had the load of regular subscribers.  I think in the long term this may be the direction.  I wonder if OnLive is a bit too early though.  Microsoft I am sure will hedge their bets on this kind of technology just as they did by throwing their hat into the whole gaming console industry.

I'm also a little unsure about OnLive as I think it is a bit too early. I personally think game streaming won't take off properly until well into the next gen, possibly the gen after (about 2016 and beyond).

 




Get your Portable ID!

Reasonable on 08 May 2009
Scoobes said:
Ausfalcon said:
Scoobes said:

 

But I doubt many TV manufacturers will have the a game streaming system built in until OnLive or equivalent services take off. Maybe Sony could have the capacity to bring out Playstation TVs but I doubt many of the others would and I think the time scale could be long than 1 generation. This means either having to buy extra hardware (controllers/waggle + some sort of signal converter) or just streaming to PC (just the converter) until such a time as Playstation Bravia/ X-Box (Toshiba or any other TV manufacturer) type TVs come out. I mean, we still use set top boxes for extra channels etc. over freeview.

 

I'm very interested in seeing what OnLive will do.  I heard its been perceptible though that it streams a bit though.  And that assessment was shared by a tech writer before the service even had the load of regular subscribers.  I think in the long term this may be the direction.  I wonder if OnLive is a bit too early though.  Microsoft I am sure will hedge their bets on this kind of technology just as they did by throwing their hat into the whole gaming console industry.

I'm also a little unsure about OnLive as I think it is a bit too early. I personally think game streaming won't take off properly until well into the next gen, possibly the gen after (about 2016 and beyond).

 

The concept is interesting, but I definately think it's too early.  Right now only a relatively small subset of gamers I think could really use the service properly.  The technical hurdles just seem higher than the service can jump right now - whatever the spiel from the OnLive presentations.

If it does work though colour me interested (assuming it makes it to UK at some point).

 

 



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

liquidninja on 08 May 2009

@Ausfalcom

RolStoppable would be the one to quote/reply on that one not me.