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S.T.A.G.E. on 05 May 2009
outlawauron said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
outlawauron said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Jo21 said:
1337 Gamer said:
Its not M$ fault Square enix dosnt make a demo why are you blaming them? Besides its just a demo.

the demo is ready, FOR THE PS3, but they are delaying it until they get 360 version done , and they just started doing that... =(.

@cactus

well they said 6 months after japanese releases...and they are trying to cut that, so Q1-Q2 2010 america, Q3-Q4 europe.-

and yes the demo its 5gb!

A 5 GB demo? Thats bullshit. No Demo should be that large and after Sony's recent conference on Gamespot.com, Gamespot employees played the Japanese demo. Trust me....they can pump out a demo....SE are just bullshitting.

No, he's right. The demo takes up 5.9 GB of space. Just 1 hour of gameplay.

I highly doubt the demo will be an hour long. 1 hour is long enough to get to know the character before the full game, which is spoiling the game. Demos are only to be used to see if the consumer likes the gameplay and concept of the title enough to buy it.

Well, it took me about 1 hour and 5 minutes to beat the demo my first time through.

Second time it took me less than 45 minutes.

 

 

1 hour into a game isn't a demonstration, it's a minigame. If Bioware gave me an hour of Mass Effect 2 to play before the full game came I wouldn't play it.



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GooseGaws on 05 May 2009

I can't believe people are STILL arguing that MS paid SE to make FFXIII multi-platform. They chose to do it themselves because, as mentioned multiple times, the 360 has a larger install base and is certain to move a lot of software units, thus earning Square Enix more profit. If you want Final Fantasy to continue as a franchise, you should be in support of their decision and thank them for the 360 version, as more profit for SE means more FF games in the future.



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outlawauron on 05 May 2009
S.T.A.G.E. said:
outlawauron said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
outlawauron said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Jo21 said:
1337 Gamer said:
Its not M$ fault Square enix dosnt make a demo why are you blaming them? Besides its just a demo.

the demo is ready, FOR THE PS3, but they are delaying it until they get 360 version done , and they just started doing that... =(.

@cactus

well they said 6 months after japanese releases...and they are trying to cut that, so Q1-Q2 2010 america, Q3-Q4 europe.-

and yes the demo its 5gb!

A 5 GB demo? Thats bullshit. No Demo should be that large and after Sony's recent conference on Gamespot.com, Gamespot employees played the Japanese demo. Trust me....they can pump out a demo....SE are just bullshitting.

No, he's right. The demo takes up 5.9 GB of space. Just 1 hour of gameplay.

I highly doubt the demo will be an hour long. 1 hour is long enough to get to know the character before the full game, which is spoiling the game. Demos are only to be used to see if the consumer likes the gameplay and concept of the title enough to buy it.

Well, it took me about 1 hour and 5 minutes to beat the demo my first time through.

Second time it took me less than 45 minutes.

1 hour into a game isn't a demonstration, it's a minigame. If Bioware gave me an hour of Mass Effect 2 to play before the full game came I wouldn't play it.

Well being that Mass Effect 2 is going to play the same way as Mass Effect, then I wouldn't care either.

The goal of this demo was give a taste of the very new, innovative battle system. It succeeded.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 05 May 2009
outlawauron said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
outlawauron said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
outlawauron said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Jo21 said:
1337 Gamer said:
Its not M$ fault Square enix dosnt make a demo why are you blaming them? Besides its just a demo.

the demo is ready, FOR THE PS3, but they are delaying it until they get 360 version done , and they just started doing that... =(.

@cactus

well they said 6 months after japanese releases...and they are trying to cut that, so Q1-Q2 2010 america, Q3-Q4 europe.-

and yes the demo its 5gb!

A 5 GB demo? Thats bullshit. No Demo should be that large and after Sony's recent conference on Gamespot.com, Gamespot employees played the Japanese demo. Trust me....they can pump out a demo....SE are just bullshitting.

No, he's right. The demo takes up 5.9 GB of space. Just 1 hour of gameplay.

I highly doubt the demo will be an hour long. 1 hour is long enough to get to know the character before the full game, which is spoiling the game. Demos are only to be used to see if the consumer likes the gameplay and concept of the title enough to buy it.

Well, it took me about 1 hour and 5 minutes to beat the demo my first time through.

Second time it took me less than 45 minutes.

1 hour into a game isn't a demonstration, it's a minigame. If Bioware gave me an hour of Mass Effect 2 to play before the full game came I wouldn't play it.

Well being that Mass Effect 2 is going to play the same way as Mass Effect, then I wouldn't care either.

The goal of this demo was give a taste of the very new, innovative battle system. It succeeded.

 

 

Who told you that ME2 was going to play the same as ME? The devs said the battle system has far more depth as pertaining to the second act of the story and it will only get better. Plus, they took criticism and tips from the fans as to what to put into the battle system. I don't think you fully understand what ME2 is going to be. I've seen the Japanese demo of FFXIII and it is boring compared, even though I'm still getting the game. FFXIII is the last chance I'm giving to JRPG's, when I really should've spent my money buying Fallout 3 instead of pre-ordering FFXIII.



outlawauron on 05 May 2009
S.T.A.G.E. said:
outlawauron said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
outlawauron said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
outlawauron said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Jo21 said:
1337 Gamer said:
Its not M$ fault Square enix dosnt make a demo why are you blaming them? Besides its just a demo.

the demo is ready, FOR THE PS3, but they are delaying it until they get 360 version done , and they just started doing that... =(.

@cactus

well they said 6 months after japanese releases...and they are trying to cut that, so Q1-Q2 2010 america, Q3-Q4 europe.-

and yes the demo its 5gb!

A 5 GB demo? Thats bullshit. No Demo should be that large and after Sony's recent conference on Gamespot.com, Gamespot employees played the Japanese demo. Trust me....they can pump out a demo....SE are just bullshitting.

No, he's right. The demo takes up 5.9 GB of space. Just 1 hour of gameplay.

I highly doubt the demo will be an hour long. 1 hour is long enough to get to know the character before the full game, which is spoiling the game. Demos are only to be used to see if the consumer likes the gameplay and concept of the title enough to buy it.

Well, it took me about 1 hour and 5 minutes to beat the demo my first time through.

Second time it took me less than 45 minutes.

1 hour into a game isn't a demonstration, it's a minigame. If Bioware gave me an hour of Mass Effect 2 to play before the full game came I wouldn't play it.

Well being that Mass Effect 2 is going to play the same way as Mass Effect, then I wouldn't care either.

The goal of this demo was give a taste of the very new, innovative battle system. It succeeded.

Who told you that ME2 was going to play the same as ME? The devs said the battle system has far more depth as pertaining to the second act of the story and it will only get better. Plus, they took criticism and tips from the fans as to what to put into the battle system. I don't think you fully understand what ME2 is going to be. I've seen the Japanese demo of FFXIII and it is boring compared, even though I'm still getting the game. FFXIII is the last chance I'm giving to JRPG's, when I really should've spent my money buying Fallout 3 instead of pre-ordering FFXIII.

Far more depth isn't a large change or innovation, just an improvement. An expansion of the foundation already created.

 

There is a large difference between the combat of FF12 and FF13.



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And snuggle the girls be they short or tall,
Then follow young Mat whenever he calls,
To dance with Jak o' the Shadows."

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S.T.A.G.E. on 05 May 2009
outlawauron said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
outlawauron said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
outlawauron said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
outlawauron said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Jo21 said:
1337 Gamer said:
Its not M$ fault Square enix dosnt make a demo why are you blaming them? Besides its just a demo.

the demo is ready, FOR THE PS3, but they are delaying it until they get 360 version done , and they just started doing that... =(.

@cactus

well they said 6 months after japanese releases...and they are trying to cut that, so Q1-Q2 2010 america, Q3-Q4 europe.-

and yes the demo its 5gb!

A 5 GB demo? Thats bullshit. No Demo should be that large and after Sony's recent conference on Gamespot.com, Gamespot employees played the Japanese demo. Trust me....they can pump out a demo....SE are just bullshitting.

No, he's right. The demo takes up 5.9 GB of space. Just 1 hour of gameplay.

I highly doubt the demo will be an hour long. 1 hour is long enough to get to know the character before the full game, which is spoiling the game. Demos are only to be used to see if the consumer likes the gameplay and concept of the title enough to buy it.

Well, it took me about 1 hour and 5 minutes to beat the demo my first time through.

Second time it took me less than 45 minutes.

1 hour into a game isn't a demonstration, it's a minigame. If Bioware gave me an hour of Mass Effect 2 to play before the full game came I wouldn't play it.

Well being that Mass Effect 2 is going to play the same way as Mass Effect, then I wouldn't care either.

The goal of this demo was give a taste of the very new, innovative battle system. It succeeded.

Who told you that ME2 was going to play the same as ME? The devs said the battle system has far more depth as pertaining to the second act of the story and it will only get better. Plus, they took criticism and tips from the fans as to what to put into the battle system. I don't think you fully understand what ME2 is going to be. I've seen the Japanese demo of FFXIII and it is boring compared, even though I'm still getting the game. FFXIII is the last chance I'm giving to JRPG's, when I really should've spent my money buying Fallout 3 instead of pre-ordering FFXIII.

Far more depth isn't a large change or innovation, just an improvement. An expansion of the foundation already created.

 

There is a large difference between the combat of FF12 and FF13.

 

 

What difference is there between the battle system in 12 and 13? I really don't see any. You can still roam while in a fight, and attack in the same manner. Versus is the game which will have the different battle system, which is the only reason I purchased the PS3 version of FFXIII.



Jo21 on 05 May 2009
S.T.A.G.E. said:
outlawauron said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
outlawauron said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
outlawauron said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
outlawauron said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Jo21 said:
1337 Gamer said:
Its not M$ fault Square enix dosnt make a demo why are you blaming them? Besides its just a demo.

the demo is ready, FOR THE PS3, but they are delaying it until they get 360 version done , and they just started doing that... =(.

@cactus

well they said 6 months after japanese releases...and they are trying to cut that, so Q1-Q2 2010 america, Q3-Q4 europe.-

and yes the demo its 5gb!

A 5 GB demo? Thats bullshit. No Demo should be that large and after Sony's recent conference on Gamespot.com, Gamespot employees played the Japanese demo. Trust me....they can pump out a demo....SE are just bullshitting.

No, he's right. The demo takes up 5.9 GB of space. Just 1 hour of gameplay.

I highly doubt the demo will be an hour long. 1 hour is long enough to get to know the character before the full game, which is spoiling the game. Demos are only to be used to see if the consumer likes the gameplay and concept of the title enough to buy it.

Well, it took me about 1 hour and 5 minutes to beat the demo my first time through.

Second time it took me less than 45 minutes.

1 hour into a game isn't a demonstration, it's a minigame. If Bioware gave me an hour of Mass Effect 2 to play before the full game came I wouldn't play it.

Well being that Mass Effect 2 is going to play the same way as Mass Effect, then I wouldn't care either.

The goal of this demo was give a taste of the very new, innovative battle system. It succeeded.

Who told you that ME2 was going to play the same as ME? The devs said the battle system has far more depth as pertaining to the second act of the story and it will only get better. Plus, they took criticism and tips from the fans as to what to put into the battle system. I don't think you fully understand what ME2 is going to be. I've seen the Japanese demo of FFXIII and it is boring compared, even though I'm still getting the game. FFXIII is the last chance I'm giving to JRPG's, when I really should've spent my money buying Fallout 3 instead of pre-ordering FFXIII.

Far more depth isn't a large change or innovation, just an improvement. An expansion of the foundation already created.

 

There is a large difference between the combat of FF12 and FF13.

 

 

What difference is there between the battle system in 12 and 13? I really don't see any. You can still roam while in a fight, and attack in the same manner. Versus is the game which will have the different battle system, which is the only reason I purchased the PS3 version of FFXIII.

ugh *facepalm*.

not its not the same. mp system is gone, we have now overclocking and the bar can let you do more than one attack per gauge charge and many other improvements changes.

no final fantasy even have the same battle system.

 



Kasz216 on 05 May 2009
Onyxmeth said:
Jo21 said:
Onyxmeth said:
Jo21 said:
Onyxmeth said:

Right. FF is third party. Sony doesn't have control over them. Neither does MS. You blaming an uninvolved party like Microsoft is a bit rediculous. I can easily throw blame in a thousand directions, but when it comes down to it, it comes down to being Square's problem, and Square's fault. If Square had started 360 development earlier, they would have had a build to make the demo from wouldn't they? If they had started to localize the game earlier, they'ed have the translation done for the demo already wouldn't they? Ultimately, it was Square's decision to release or not release the demo. They chose not to. Whatever their reasonings are don't really matter. The bottom line is they could have released it, and they chose not to.

Are you the type of person that regularly blames other people for problems they aren't responsible for? If I have a school assignment to do and I procrastinate all week, under the assumption I'll do it last minute, and then someone I know gets hospitalized causing me to not get my work done on time, who's fault is that? Is it the hospitalized person or is it me the procrastinator? There were many instances where Square could have taken a different course of action. However it was their action to take, not Microsoft's. When you show me the gun held to Wada's head, I'll concede and say it was all Microsoft's fault.

 

sadly i can't proof that, yet, but this time around kitasate said themself it not being unfair to 360 owners. true square choice, but thing that would have never happen if 360 version didn't exist, like it should.

 

How do you do it? You admit it being Square's choice and then go back to blaming Microsoft. How can it be Microsoft's fault if Square has a choice? I feel like I'm banging my head against a brick wall here.

 

because 360 version its holding it up, square didn't had to make that choice if the port didnt' exist, which likely comes with NDA Deal with microsoft.

reason why it can't be released in NA before in the ps3 even if the ps3 version it's finish first.

and trust me i would be blaming sony if they were the ones holding up the american release.

 

Sony are the ones holding up the American release. You see, Sony's decisions to release a very expensive console that went on to underperform against the PS2 made Wada stand up and notice. He interviewed many times in 2006 and 2007 about his general disappointment and calling out to Sony to fix it. You see if Sony had made better decisions and made a console as popular as the PS2, then Square would have never had to make FF XIII multiplatform in the first place.

So you see, as we go further back we can just change blame from Microsoft to Sony. If we go further back than that, I'm sure we can find a new scapegoat to take the blame. So instead of letting Square take responsibility, let's just let them off the hook and blame everybody else. Square are just the victims in all of this after all.

 

Furthermore they even stated they were going to hold it back until the PS3 had a resonable userbase didn't they?  Perhaps if it wasn't for the 360 they would of waited even longer.

360 might be getting FF13 to show up sooner!

 



Kasz216 on 05 May 2009
GooseGaws said:
So now we're all upset about not having the chance to pay $70 for a bloody demo? Unbelievable...

Yeah... fanboys are hilarious.

The best is cloud somehow claiming that this makes FF13 itself worse.

 



Kasz216 on 05 May 2009
BMaker11 said:
Falcon095 said:
Onyxmeth said:
Falcon095 said:
BMaker11 said:
Falcon095 said:
Not a big surprise, the demo was released in Japan because is exclusive there but releasing it in NA or EU without the 360 version would be giving a preference to the PS3.

Marvel vs Capcom 2

 

We are talking about SE, not Capcom.

But if you think about it, that does NOT make sense, SO4 being exclusive and The Last Remnant being timed exclusive to the X360 makes sense because MS probably paid for those (between many other PS3 fans rants), but why make the demo of Marvel vs Capcom 2 exclusive of the PS3? Unless Sony paid for it (which i doubt), i don't see what Capcom wins with this.

Nobody wins with that demo. It's local multiplayer match only. You can't even play a quick match against the computer. They give you the options to click on online multiplayer only for it to show you a screen to cocktease you. They couldn't even bother to shade it out so you couldn't select it. There'll be a real demo come release day.

 

 

Wow, i didn't even know that. I'll just pretend that he didn't give it as example, unless he's so proud of it that he desn't mind.

I was using it as an example.....

You were talking about how releasing a demo, PS3 only, would show preference to the PS3, yet it just happened with MvC2

 

Damn Square Enix for releasing the Marvel vs Capcom demo for only 360.