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The receiver I'm looking at has HDMI 1.2... How will this affect my PS3? This just means I won't be able to use uncompressed audio, right? Or is there more I need to know?




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well,
1.2 doesn't support uncompressed audio and 7.1 sound as far as I know .. and it shouldn't be able to maintain the 48bit colors the HDMI 1.3 of the PS3 outputs , but well apart from some super special professional monitors there is no TV outthere ,that would support more than 24bit anyway , so in conclusion - you won't see/hear a difference to a HDMI 1.3 system



That's what I figured. I'm still trying to decide whether to spring for a 1.3 receiver and two additional speakers but I don't really see the point. My living room isn't really big enough to take advantage of an 8 speaker setup.




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If some of the "True Color" (I think that is what it is called) features are instituted later, only possible with HDMI 1.3, it could affect something slightly. It is not anywhere in the forseeable future, and you will still be able to view/play everything. Beyond the audio, I don't think there is much more that will realistically affect you. I think there are more "potential" things in HDMI 1.3 that haven't really been used yet, but I haven't read about it in awhile.



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To me it is a big benefit to not run separate audio cables, so I would go with the 1.3 receiver if possible. Have you looked to see what the price difference was?



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superchunk said:
To me it is a big benefit to not run separate audio cables, so I would go with the 1.3 receiver if possible. Have you looked to see what the price difference was?

HUGE. :D

1.3 receivers are still going for quite a bit more than I'm willing to spend.




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rocketpig said:
That's what I figured. I'm still trying to decide whether to spring for a 1.3 receiver and two additional speakers but I don't really see the point. My living room isn't really big enough to take advantage of an 8 speaker setup.

You could always just use digital optical for sound with the PS3 and just connect the HDMI directly into your TV. That's what I do with my HDMI equipment.

HDMI cables are about $4 and TOSLink optical cables are about $3.

A lot of HDMI receivers end up 'passing through' both video and audio via HDMI and you have to connect a digital optical cable and assign it to that output anyhow.  It doesn't seem like much of an inconvenience to run a single HDMI cable and a single optical cable from your PS3 to your receiver to me.  You could bind the cables together so they only seem like one.



akuma587 said:
If some of the "True Color" (I think that is what it is called) features are instituted later, only possible with HDMI 1.3, it could affect something slightly. It is not anywhere in the forseeable future, and you will still be able to view/play everything. Beyond the audio, I don't think there is much more that will realistically affect you. I think there are more "potential" things in HDMI 1.3 that haven't really been used yet, but I haven't read about it in awhile.

 Several newer sets support xvyCC



Leo-j said: If a dvd for a pc game holds what? Crysis at 3000p or something, why in the world cant a blu-ray disc do the same?

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sieanr said:
akuma587 said:
If some of the "True Color" (I think that is what it is called) features are instituted later, only possible with HDMI 1.3, it could affect something slightly. It is not anywhere in the forseeable future, and you will still be able to view/play everything. Beyond the audio, I don't think there is much more that will realistically affect you. I think there are more "potential" things in HDMI 1.3 that haven't really been used yet, but I haven't read about it in awhile.

Several newer sets support xvyCC


Which one?

Anyway, on the receiver side, they're only useful at supporting HDMI 1.3 if they have the lipsync feature, and the bandwidth of course. They all basically are used as HDMI switchers, and I'm not even sure they correct the signal, which degrades with distance.

As for the sound, no receiver can receive the HD part, because it's not sent by any player (as the norm says), it's all SACD again. So they only decode the "core" part at best. The HD sound is only output by the 8 analog connections that your player must have.

I say that just so that you don't waste money on features that are currently useless, seeing as the receivers with these are very expensive.

As a rule of thumb, in home theater, it's unwise to buy sth for features you can't use right now, unless money is not a problem of course. It's even more true in the HD realm. 



ookaze said:
sieanr said:
akuma587 said:
If some of the "True Color" (I think that is what it is called) features are instituted later, only possible with HDMI 1.3, it could affect something slightly. It is not anywhere in the forseeable future, and you will still be able to view/play everything. Beyond the audio, I don't think there is much more that will realistically affect you. I think there are more "potential" things in HDMI 1.3 that haven't really been used yet, but I haven't read about it in awhile.

Several newer sets support xvyCC


Which one?


Samsung 71/81, which imho makes things too saturated.

Of course there are also sets from sony, and maybe sharp. I know there are atleast several - probably equal to the numer of 1080p sets at this time last year. 



Leo-j said: If a dvd for a pc game holds what? Crysis at 3000p or something, why in the world cant a blu-ray disc do the same?

ssj12 said: Player specific decoders are nothing more than specialized GPUs. Gran Turismo is the trust driving simulator of them all. 

"Why do they call it the xbox 360? Because when you see it, you'll turn 360 degrees and walk away"