A problem with lists like this is Square Enix itself. In qualifying Square Enix do we count ALL SquareSoft games and ALL Enix games? Or do we just count games that were made after the two merged?
"Pier was a chef, a gifted and respected chef who made millions selling his dishes to the residents of New York City and Boston, he even had a famous jingle playing in those cities that everyone knew by heart. He also had a restaurant in Los Angeles, but not expecting LA to have such a massive population he only used his name on that restaurant and left it to his least capable and cheapest chefs. While his New York restaurant sold kobe beef for $100 and his Boston restaurant sold lobster for $50, his LA restaurant sold cheap hotdogs for $30. Initially these hot dogs sold fairly well because residents of los angeles were starving for good food and hoped that the famous name would denote a high quality, but most were disappointed with what they ate. Seeing the success of his cheap hot dogs in LA, Pier thought "why bother giving Los Angeles quality meats when I can oversell them on cheap hotdogs forever, and since I don't care about the product anyways, why bother advertising them? So Pier continued to only sell cheap hotdogs in LA and was surprised to see that they no longer sold. Pier's conclusion? Residents of Los Angeles don't like food."
"The so-called "hardcore" gamer is a marketing brainwashed, innovation shunting, self-righteous idiot who pays videogame makers far too much money than what is delivered."
Namco TALES Studios > Square Enix >> Capcom. Capcom gives it an effort though, with Breath of Fire. For JRPGs anyway. For RPGs in General:
Bioware > Lionhead = Bethesda
GOTY Contestants this year: Dead Space 2, Dark Souls, Tales of Graces f. Everything else can suck it.
| txrattlesnake said: When Mistwalker has a game that gets above a 9 their fans will have room to talk, but Blue Dragon on 360 was a 7.8 and Lost Odyssey was an 8.2 quite off the pace of most Square games (Chrono Cross 9.7, Vagrant Story 9.6, Final Fantasy VII, Final Fantasy X, Final Fantasy X-2, and Final Fantasy XII all got 9.5s) |
You're right, because what people enjoy should take a backseat to meaningless internet reviews. Final Fantasy VII bored me to tears and came very near to putting me off the franchise altogether. The only saving grace FF has had, to me, in the CD era is FF9, which I notice didn't make your list. All the capital they built up with 9 was dashed to pieces by 12.
I guess I had no right to even post this, though, because some anonymous internet reviewer has different taste than I do. Regardless of bullshit metacritic scores, though, I'll take "I'll never give up, Landshark!" over "Waaaah Cloud waaah Sephiroth qqqqqqq" any day of the week.
I give your post a 2/10.
| Neoraf said: None of them. The best RPG maker are:
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ewww blue dragon barf... i think he ment jrpgs.
ill have to give it to square because of Kingdom hearts, kinda offends me u didnt mention it.. lol
deadt0m said:
You're right, because what people enjoy should take a backseat to meaningless internet reviews. Final Fantasy VII bored me to tears and came very near to putting me off the franchise altogether. The only saving grace FF has had, to me, in the CD era is FF9, which I notice didn't make your list. All the capital they built up with 9 was dashed to pieces by 12. I guess I had no right to even post this, though, because some anonymous internet reviewer has different taste than I do. Regardless of bullshit metacritic scores, though, I'll take "I'll never give up, Landshark!" over "Waaaah Cloud waaah Sephiroth qqqqqqq" any day of the week.
I give your post a 2/10.
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What makes one game better than another in your eyes?
"Pier was a chef, a gifted and respected chef who made millions selling his dishes to the residents of New York City and Boston, he even had a famous jingle playing in those cities that everyone knew by heart. He also had a restaurant in Los Angeles, but not expecting LA to have such a massive population he only used his name on that restaurant and left it to his least capable and cheapest chefs. While his New York restaurant sold kobe beef for $100 and his Boston restaurant sold lobster for $50, his LA restaurant sold cheap hotdogs for $30. Initially these hot dogs sold fairly well because residents of los angeles were starving for good food and hoped that the famous name would denote a high quality, but most were disappointed with what they ate. Seeing the success of his cheap hot dogs in LA, Pier thought "why bother giving Los Angeles quality meats when I can oversell them on cheap hotdogs forever, and since I don't care about the product anyways, why bother advertising them? So Pier continued to only sell cheap hotdogs in LA and was surprised to see that they no longer sold. Pier's conclusion? Residents of Los Angeles don't like food."
"The so-called "hardcore" gamer is a marketing brainwashed, innovation shunting, self-righteous idiot who pays videogame makers far too much money than what is delivered."
griffinA said:
What makes one game better than another in your eyes?
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Nothing besides how much I enjoy it. I enjoyed Blue Dragon, did not enjoy FFVII, VIII, XI, or XII. I'm not saying that people who disagree are wrong, it's impossible to be wrong about which game gives you the most enjoyment. All I'm saying is that to imply that people who prefer Mistwalker are in some way unfit to voice their opinion because of review scores is mentally bankrupt.
| Neoraf said: None of them. The best RPG maker are:
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And dont forget bout Bethesda
Long Live SHIO!
deadt0m said:
Nothing besides how much I enjoy it. I enjoyed Blue Dragon, did not enjoy FFVII, VIII, XI, or XII. I'm not saying that people who disagree are wrong, it's impossible to be wrong about which game gives you the most enjoyment. All I'm saying is that to imply that people who prefer Mistwalker are in some way unfit to voice their opinion because of review scores is mentally bankrupt.
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If you didn't like a specific game would it then be a called a "bad game" in your eyes even if it's beloved by millions of people?
"Pier was a chef, a gifted and respected chef who made millions selling his dishes to the residents of New York City and Boston, he even had a famous jingle playing in those cities that everyone knew by heart. He also had a restaurant in Los Angeles, but not expecting LA to have such a massive population he only used his name on that restaurant and left it to his least capable and cheapest chefs. While his New York restaurant sold kobe beef for $100 and his Boston restaurant sold lobster for $50, his LA restaurant sold cheap hotdogs for $30. Initially these hot dogs sold fairly well because residents of los angeles were starving for good food and hoped that the famous name would denote a high quality, but most were disappointed with what they ate. Seeing the success of his cheap hot dogs in LA, Pier thought "why bother giving Los Angeles quality meats when I can oversell them on cheap hotdogs forever, and since I don't care about the product anyways, why bother advertising them? So Pier continued to only sell cheap hotdogs in LA and was surprised to see that they no longer sold. Pier's conclusion? Residents of Los Angeles don't like food."
"The so-called "hardcore" gamer is a marketing brainwashed, innovation shunting, self-righteous idiot who pays videogame makers far too much money than what is delivered."
If you count Square and Enix before merging then Square Enix wins by far. Chrono Trigger, Super Mario RPG, Final Fantasy 4, 6 and 7 and Parasite Eve are the best RPG's I ever played. The only RPG from Capcom that I played so far I remember is Breath of Fire which I don't like very much and I don't like Namco's RPG so much, not a big fan of Tales of series (although Tales of Symphonia is fucking awesome) and Xenosaga only liked the first (never played III and II sucks)
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